In these temperatures you should be able to start it without glowplugs especially if it has a block heater. Just start it up, drive it home and fix it when you get home.

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depends on how cheap your getting the car for. i think your worst case scenerario is about 3 grand if you have to pull the head and have the plugs removed. i'd do it if the car was still in good shape and glowplugs where all it needed

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Thanks fellas! I forgot to mention the car has around 146K miles, and hasn't run any WVO or anything funky. I figured it would start w/o the 2 glowplugs heating up. May run rough at first, and then smooth out once it heats up.




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When you stay "broken" glow plugs do you mean physically broken to the point that you can not remove them with a wrench or just non-functional? If they are just non-functional the job is fairly straight forward as long as you follow some of the suggestions/experience you can find on this forum ..... and I would replace all six while I was in there. However, if the head truely has two stuck and physically broken glow plugs in it .... It could be a nightmare to fix without the special tools for the job and the experience to do the job right .... you can read about those nightmares on this forum as well. At 150,000 miles the OM606 motor has more than 1/2 its life left .... I have 2 cars approaching twice that distance and one with 200,000 miles .... all three have had no major engine problems. Good Luck.

Thanks for the info. I read quite a few DIY's, posts and looked at some Youtube videos on the removal methods and looks to be pretty straight forward to me. Looks like some of those guys got away with some pretty standard tools to remove them(drills, tap etc).

I'm having the seller send me some photos of the head with the plugs broken off in them that way I can size things up. Sounds like he replaced the plugs once at 86K miles, and recently at 146K miles and that's when he had problems with two of them. I believe me mentioned he worked then back and forth a bit, and when he put the breaker bar on, they snapped at the hex portion. The pictures will help me understand where things stand with it.

Are there any trusted Gurus here on the Forum in Pa, or on the way from there to Florida that would be good to stop and have them assist?





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My dad lives in Port St Lucie.

You never answered if the glow plugs were physically broken or? I know on the 606 they have a tendency to get stuck on the head. If the tips were broken off in the prechamber I would pass.

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I'm still trying to get info from teh seller on the exact condition of the glow plugs. He said they are broken off at the hex part on cylinder number 2 & 4 . Not sure if that means that they broke off where the threaded part meets the hex(that's what I'm thinking) or otherwise. I'll be speaking with him in 20-30 minutes or so.

#2 & 4 cylinders have broken off glowplugs at the thread. The threaded portion is still in the head, and the hex portion broke off. He mentioned that he was able to turn them almost all the way out, and then they seized up on him. My question is would the car still be driveable from Pa. to Florida like that? I'm sure there would be some compresion leakage but woudn't think it would be that horrible through the thread area since it's seized in there. Any thoughts? I'm planning to fly up friday and pick it up. Thanks!


Josh

Seems driveable to me. Did the seller say it ran ok in that condition?

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1993 GMC Sierra 6.5 TD 4x4
1982 Bluebird Wanderlodge CAT 3208--Sold 2/13

Will probably run; will be rough and will throw codes, etc. Going to need to tape up the two wires that have nothing to connect to and button the IM back up (20NM on the IM bolts).

The videos you've seen, while containing good principles and ideas, are undoubtedly for a CDI engine and not a 606. The CDI has nice milled seats at the GP's whereas the 606 was only partially milled out.

Lots of good homemade pullers here and thread inserts if you bugger one up too bad.

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I can think of lots of worst cases. The car is apart. Not currently drivable. More realist worst case is that you pay $2000 more to get it transported to your house.

At the price he is asking, YES. If you were local, maybe an easier call. For what you are going to spend to retrieve the car and fix it, you could find a drivable one.

But if money is no object, and all you want is an adventure, keep us posted....

This is from someone who has driven 10 hours to look at a car "that has never been in an accident". "Why is the roof dented and the 'C' pillar bent", "a tree fell on it, but it has never been in an accident! ". Drove 10 hours home with an empty car dolly bouncing along behind me.

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Previous:
1983 240D, on WVO
1982 300D, on WVO
1983 300CD, on WVO
1986 300SDL 237k, 25k on WVO (Deerslayer)
1991 350SDL 249k, 56k on WVO - Retired to a car spa in Phoenix
1983 380 SEC w/603 diesel, 8k on WVO
1996 E300D 351k, 177k on WVO

Thanks for all the help guys! Very informative. I would certainly love to own one of these peculiar vehicles. I'm used to eccentricities/finickyness like my jetta TDI has



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" and when he put the breaker bar on, they snapped at the hex portion"

No Telling WHAT else he's taken that very same Breaker Bar to!

(A.K.A. This Clown whose been working on your "Soon to Be New to You Mercedes" has NO IDEA WTF he's doing!)

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Could be an expensive wild goose chase if you get there and find the condition of the car is not what you were led to believe. You can reduce the risk if there's someone local to the car that you trust and that knows Mercedes that can look at it for you.

If you decide to drive it back you should have a plan "B" in case it doesn't make it. That's a long way to limp a sick car.

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