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Old 10-15-2011, 06:29 PM
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Need help finding Door Seals and Window Scrapers for W123

Hello, I own a 1980 300TD wagon that’s in need of a lot of love. I’ve been working on it all summer cleaning it up and getting it so that it starts and runs no problem. As I live in the Pacific Northwest (Portland, Oregon), I seriously need to get the car water tight. I’m having troubles finding door seals and window scrapers as well as figuring out how to install them. I found this guide for the window scrapers:

BenzObsession.com • View topic - w123 Outer Window Brush Replacement - DIY

but ********** no longer seems to stock the scrapers.

A local place ********** says they can get seals for only the front doors for $50 each, and scrapers for only the front doors for $30 each.

Then there’s *************** which seems to have the right door seals for the rear wagon doors, but no window scrapers.

$30 for window scrapers seems pretty expensive to me. Does anyone have any comments on these retailers or prices? Or perhaps better suggestions where I could find these parts? Also, does anyone know how to install the door seals?

Thanks for any help.

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Old 10-15-2011, 07:24 PM
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Welcome to the forum!!

You will find us a friendly group offering plenty of good advice.

PM our mod, vstech, he will have a few.
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Old 10-15-2011, 08:58 PM
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Hello, welcome to the forum!
you cannot post ANY links to competing websites on this forum.
this site will help you with ANYTHING you need to buy or install. it's what we do!
give phil a call at the number at the top right corner of the window, or click the buy parts button up top, and pick out everything you need for your car!
the member who created the DIY you linked to is an awesome help on this site, and will likely chime in to assist you with any questions you have on the repair.
I've done it myself several times, and it's pretty straight forward!
be cautious around the mirror trim, it's pretty fragile!
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:05 PM
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I believe the window scrapers are dealer only. I found some good ones on a junkyard car and pulled them. To get the outside scrapers off you have to pull the trim but gently tapping it upwards. Then the scrapers can be popped off. For the inside ones you have to pull the door panel and pop the clips off.

You can definitely get door seals from the parts tab up top
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:09 PM
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nope, Phil has sent me dozens of the brushes for windows. he stocks them for sure.
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 10-15-2011, 11:37 PM
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Thank you for the help. And sorry about breaking a forum rule. I'll keep that in mind in the future.
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Old 10-16-2011, 11:02 AM
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Pelican parts has the window scrapers and the door seals- I've bought both from them in the last month. While there is no rear door scrapers listed, you can use the sedan version- and when I did that I got all the same part numbers for both front and rear doors. You will also need the plastic inserts/clips (IDK the part numbers but they are cheap- note front and rear doors have different clips IIRC) and some rubber cement for the door seals.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:00 PM
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Do you remember the parts numbers for the door seals you ordered by any chance? Also, were you satisfied with the brand?
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:56 AM
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The window rails only come in one length and have to be cut to size, hence: only one part number. They are simple to install. Carefully remove the chrome strip below the window and then the rails. I never had to replace my snaps, but mine is an older W123 that uses metal snaps. Apparently they were changed to plastic in later years.
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Old 10-21-2011, 04:06 AM
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I am always impressed by the stuff you guys know.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:33 AM
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I recently did the same stuff to my 84 300d. The only door seals that I would puchase are OEM. They are pricey, around 200+ each, but the quality is far superior to all of the others. Mercedes puts fabric into the seals at the wear points so I am confident that these parts will last much longer thatn any of the other brands listed if you plan to keep the car long term. I only replaced the outer wiper seals on my windows. The inner ones are much harder to source and cost lots more, so dont even bother asking mercedes if you are prone to fainting. I attached the loose parts of the door seals with 3M black trim adhesive and it worked very well. the job is pretty straight forward, my only advice is to not stretch the seals as you go around the edge of the door or you will end up with excessive slack where you finish, and grease them up with silicone spray before inserting them. Start at the top corner of each door where there is a 90 degree bend.
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Old 10-21-2011, 08:40 AM
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This has to be a record on here.
A yellow card on his first post !!!!
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1984 300D 500k miles
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:54 AM
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This has to be a record on here.
A yellow card on his first post !!!!
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread
"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:44 PM
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Dang, guys first post and he get shot out of the saddle. maybe he just got winged.

Guess he didn`t read the fine print.




I got some prices from the dealer back in January for the door seals

L/F list $152.00 net $136.80 123-720-15-78
R/F list $152.00 net $136.80 123-720-16-78
L/R list $139.00 net $125.10 123-730-01-78
R/R list $139.00 net $125.10 123-730-02-78

windshield list $127.00 net $114.30 123-670-01-39
back glass list $149.00 net $134.10 123-670-02-39

Only $771.75. It`s only money

pricy, but I bought some off e-bay a few years ago, and replaced both front doors on the 85. both sides leak water along the top of the door. the old one`s did not leak water but were old and cracked and had some wind noise.

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Old 10-21-2011, 02:31 PM
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How much does Phil charge for the scrapers? '83 300D.
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