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Anyone ever consider using Caterpillar Diesel oil?
I'm using Rotella T6. I believe that the zinc content is around 11 ppm . Given that this and other additives are lower than period oils of the 70s, I'm searching for oil with more protective additives to help minimize wear.
From prior reading here, some folks use Amsoil or Lubemoly (?) from Napa which is both synthetic and has been formulated with these older engines in mind. I haven't read too deeply on the subject, but it seems that Cat offers a wide range of engine oils that might also work. Cat Parts: Parts>Machine Fluids>Oils>Diesel Engine Oil Given the range of Cat equipment out there of varying ages and their long experience keeping machines running, I thought they might know a thing or two about what it takes to keep an engine running smoothly. I'm not interested in another synthetic vs dino debate. Just the merits, or lack thereof, of Cat DEO.
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As long as it is CJ4 or CI4 I'm sure it will be a very good choice of all for a Benz or any other diesel. I FULLY expect the oil they put their name on to be of the absolutely best quality.
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The correct viscosity CAT branded oil exceeds MB requirements, as do many others. Using good quality oil of the correct type and viscosity (see your owner's manual), along with regular maintenance is the best guarantee of long engine life. Good quality engine oil already has the necessary additive packages to keep the internal moving parts well lubricated, free of build-up, etc, etc. Have a great day. .
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Motor Oil: Zinc and Other Myths - AACA Forums http://forums.aaca.org/attachments/f115/41472d1258474655-motor-oil-zinc-other-myths-engine-oil-mythology-2-2007.pdf Engine oil mythology debunked, and ZDP content - Steel Soldiers::Military Vehicles Supersite . |
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I work at the railroad and we have amazing oil. People used it in there Powerstroke for years. We found out that it was a 1000 rpm oil. Anything higher created bubble. Make sure it can handle high rpms.the Powerstroke guys always wondered why there idle was ruff.
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I've been running the T6 Rotella for almost 115,000 miles with no noticeable wear on my engine (617) so far. Chain stretch on the one I put in 102k ago is .5 degrees, and still starts at 0F with a 5 year old battery, 15 year old starter, and no block heater....315k on engine.
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we get CAT oil in 200ltr (50 us gal) drums. We have always used it in our dozer, scraper & road grader. As we have it here, it also goes in just about everything else. There has never been a problem with it. The guy from CAT who visits from time to time gives good advice & if it wasnt suitable for anything he would tell us.
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I have used Cat DEO in all of my vehicles for years. I also use oil analysis to help validate the performance of the oil and to predict failures on my terms, not theirs. You will not have any quality issues with the Cat fluids.
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What about their coolant? Is it compatible with our vehicles?
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Cat coolant
I also use the DEAC coolant with scheduled nitrite additions.
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Years ago the CAT 5w40 oil was actually just repacked Mobile 1 Turbo Diesel Truck. I would guess this hasn't changed.
-J
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Never saw Cat DEO 5-40! Never looked for it either as being in a warm climate we always used DEO 15-40 all year.Makes sense that they must have it as they make lots of equipment that has to start in sub-zero weather and i dont think they put the "pony" engines on any new equipment these days.I have no idea who makes their oil but it must be good or they would not market for use in their VERY expensive $$$ engines.Recently priced a new what we used to call a 3412 with a twin disc gear,well beyond $61 grand!!! No crap oil for those babys. Don
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Regarding the newer oils, CI4 is what you want for our Mercedes, the CJ is formulated for newer engines with exhaust aftertreatment, and is lower in zinc levels. |
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