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Old 02-08-2012, 06:53 PM
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Locked keys in 88 420 sel

Hello, just completed an engine swap in a 1988 420 sel. I have been adding trans fluid and noticed a bunch on the floor coming from what looks like the top of the trans but I can't see. I was thinking to turn the motor over to get it to fill up the torque converter so I quickly hooked up the battery to turn the motor over and left the keys in the ignition. I assume that as soon as I hooked up the battery that the doors locked themselves. I have unhooked the battery and they are still locked
Does anyone know how to bypass the locks? Thanks.

Sorry, just noticed I put this into the diesel section and have moved it to the tech section.

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Old 02-08-2012, 07:02 PM
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:07 PM
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Hello, Thanks. I had a friend give me a broken mityvac. I should be able to rig it to work....so where to find the proper vac. line?
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:10 PM
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Not sure on your model but there are only so many vacuum connections that go into the cabin. One of them has to be the one. Hopefully a 420 guy will pop in.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:11 PM
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I just noticed our dogs are in our pictures. I am sure glad he was'nt in the car as he sometimes likes to hang out in there to keep his feet off the cold concrete.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:14 PM
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In hindsight maybe if he was in there he would unlock it for me...yeah right.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:19 PM
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:20 PM
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I was just wondering how this thing would have generated vacuum to lock the doors since it has been sitting a little over five years...and I had not yet started the new motor... I was just getting to it. Now locked out.

I was thinking if it was like my wagons then yes, I could just pressurize, with vaccuum, the five or six vacuum lines that go through the firewall. I don't think this gasser is the same in that regard...but don't know.

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Old 02-08-2012, 07:29 PM
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I was just wondering how this thing would have generated vacuum to lock the doors since it has been sitting a little over five years...and I had not yet started the new motor... I was just getting to it. Now locked out.
Doesn't that model have an electric vacuum pump for the door locks?


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...so I quickly hooked up the battery to turn the motor over and left the keys in the ignition. I assume that as soon as I hooked up the battery that the doors locked themselves.
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:38 PM
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Doesn't that model have an electric vacuum pump for the door locks?[tangofox007]

Yes, I did hear a clunk coming from the trunk area passenger side when I hooked up the battery. I thought it was those electric fuel pumps turning on....Maybe it was a pump but it sounded more like a clunk.

Sorry as I am not really familiar with the gasser models....I don't know what it has. I know that this would not have happened in any of my diesels so I really was'nt expecting it..

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Old 02-08-2012, 07:43 PM
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I know that this would not have happened in any of my diesels so I really was'nt expecting it..
It can certainly happen on some MB diesels-the ones with electric vacuum pumps.

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Old 02-08-2012, 08:48 PM
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124 and 126 chassis vehicles have an electric pump that controls the door locks... however it would make a pumping noise, not a CLUNK... if it made a clunk noise and locked the doors, someone may have installed remote door lock solenoids to lock the doors... either way, I'd fish a coat hanger in a window, and hook the lock to open the door...
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:17 AM
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I can certainly happen on some MB diesels-the ones with electric vacuum pumps.
Sorry...I was not aware that any of the diesels I list in my sig came with an electric vacuum pump??? maybe it was a euro thing for the w123 model?....anyways....so what I am getting here is likely that this 420 sel gasser has an electric vacuum pump which was activated upon hooking up the battery and that is how the doors locked themselves. I wonder how to undo this since disonnecting the battery has not helped with unlocking the doors.
I think what I need to do is find the resovoir for the vacuum generated by this electric vacuum pump and induce it to relieve the vacuum maybe by means of unhooking a line to the vacuum resovoir. Wondering if I am on the right track.....or should I start messing with coat hangers. I am worried that this method will ruin the weatherstripping, but will do so if it comes to that.

I may have no choice, because I am thinking that Mercedes would surely not have designed a redundant system where I could access this vacuum resovoir from the outside/underneath the car to bypass the door locks.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:44 AM
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I am a member of AAA and as well as Towing they have some free Locksmith Service.

In your case what I have seen the Tow Truck Driver do is put something like a Blood Pressure Cuff between the Door (pried open with a Plastic coated Tool) and inflates it prying your door out enough to stick something in and yank the Key out or pull the Locking Knob up.

If you do the Coat Hanger thing and try to pull up the Locking Knob be patient. If you do not have any thing to pry the Door a little wrap a big Screwdriver with masking or Duct Tape so it does not mar things so much.
It also helps if someone else pries the Door open and you have 2 free hands to manipulate the Coat Hanger.
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:59 AM
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I have a picture of the number 15 spot in the fuse box. I did still have the hood open if that helps me at all. I don't suppose cracking that large vacuum line at the power brake booster would work to let out some vacuum or is the central locking system and electric vacuum pump a stand alone system separate from the rest of the vaccuum systems on the car? Thanks
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