Following up on my last thread, I was looking for mounts for my 81 240D, but couldn't find Lemforder. Was worried that the other brands may be third world copies and not the same quality. I was pretty sure from my engine mount job on my 300CD, of which some pics of new and old mounts are here:










That the OE mounts that I had bought from the dealer were indeed Lemforder.

So after verifying that 300D mounts can be used on 240D cars, I ordered Lemforder mounts from Phil for $26 instead of $134 for OE. I just got them today. Found that they were made in Turkey.

Some images:







I'm pretty sure that down to the two blue dots (which aren't shown in the pics from my last job, but that I remember as being there, and they are also referenced in 27-211 of the FSM), these are OE mounts. They certainly have a 123 part number cast in the rubber.

So not German, but made in Turkey.

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

I am thrilled when I can get Turkish parts rather than Chinese these days (sigh). I recall buying , I think, Meyle mounts 10 years ago and when I got them you could see when the star had been ground off- obviously made to be resold by MB.

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80 300SD (129k mi) 82 240D stick (193k mi)77 240D auto - stick to be (153k mi) 85 380SL (145k mi) 89 BMW 535i 82 Diesel Rabbit Pickup (374k mi) 91 Jetta IDI Diesel (155k mi) 81 VW Rabbit Convertible Diesel 70 Triumph Spitfire Mk III (63kmi)66 Triumph TR4a IRS (90k mi)67 Ford F-100 (??)

Ive read that Meyle now is no good.

What a sad state of things...

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

I just got a set of rear links by Meyle and they were all made in Germany and look to be the highest quality!
Also purchased Lemforder rear subframe mounts that are made in France by ZF services ZF Friedrichshafen AG | Startseite | Antriebstechnik und Fahrwerktechnik

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1999 Mercedes E300TD daily driver sold at 238K miles 106K miles were mine, rust worm got it :-(
2006 Mercedes CDI new daily driver! 56,000 miles May 2016 now 85,625 Apr 2018 and Apr 2019 101,000 miles Apr 2020 109,875. March 2024 135,250

Excellent!

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

One of our Members pointed out that the Lemforder Mounts are actually made by Phoenix (spelling?) and has that logo on it.

Also where the Mounts were made is found here:
Fight Back; Post/List Where The Parts You Bought Were Made
Fight Back; Post/List Where The Parts You Bought Were Made - PeachParts Mercedes ShopForum

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel

Thanks. Not sure who Phoenix is, but of they are built to the same quality, durometer rubber, etc., then I guess ok.

At least it isn't China...

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

At this time Mercedes OEM = Phoenix Made Motor Mounts and Lemforder evidently buys them and grinds off the Mercedes Star and sells them.

There is at least 2 Internet Part Sellers who sell the Motor Mounts under the Phoenix name.

What I found odd is that I was reading a book that mentioned Turkey as the "Sick Man Of Europe"; so gather from that Turkey is considered part of Europe.
Till I read that I had always considered it part of the Middle East.

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84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel