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Old 02-13-2012, 12:03 PM
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87 300td turbo gasket

I am getting some smoke from the turbo area at start up, guessing the gasket needs replacement. Dealer parts $33 wondering if anybody has replaced same and knows if gasket is only available by dealer. Also what the procedure is for replacement.
Another subject, tried to remove the fan, what a bear, kept spinning bought a kit of tools supposedly to remove fan but must be for a different model year, pretty tools but did not work. Anyone know what tool I need to stop rotation of the fan so it can be removed?

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Old 02-13-2012, 05:25 PM
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For the fan, use this - Pulley Spinning Tool

A dealer only turbo gasket for $33 that fixes smoke? I can't imagine what that is. I also can't imagine what kind of smoke from the turbo occurs only at start up. Is this smoke emanating from the turbo or out the tail pipes? If it's out the tail pipes, it sounds more like unburned fuel from lazy glow plugs. Or worn valve stem seals, but that would cause smoke just about every time you accelerate from a stop.

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Old 02-13-2012, 06:28 PM
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if the hood is open I can see a puff of smoke coming from the corrugated pipe at the turbo.
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Old 02-13-2012, 07:08 PM
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The corrugated pipe leading to the EGR valve, the corrugated pipe between the #2 and #3 exhaust manifold runners or the corrugated pipe leading to the exhaust pipe?



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Old 02-14-2012, 09:59 AM
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The large corrugated area just below the intake manifold crossover pipe.Looks like three corrugations. definitely a leak there.

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Old 02-14-2012, 01:37 PM
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Actually a fairly common area to leak. That's part of the exhaust manifold. The exhaust manifold has to come off to replace the corrugated pipe. There's a sleeve that prevents replacement of the the corrugated pipe in place. If you can reach all the manifold bolts, you can leave the turbo attached to the manifold after releasing the oil feed line from the block, and the angle bracket that supports the turbo off the alternator bracket.

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Old 02-14-2012, 02:33 PM
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I'd wrap it in fiberglass header wrap and some zip ties. But I'm not known for clean fixes :p
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Thanks for the great picture.
Have any ideas what tool I need to hold the fan in place to take it off?
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Is the part to correct the exhaust leak the corrugated connector or is there a gasket inside it? Is this a dealer available part only?
thanks for the tool link for the fan
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:27 PM
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I'm fairly sure they're dealer only parts. The corrugated pipe is 117 142 01 59, $30 list; the sleeve inside the corrugated pipe is 117 142 01 54, $21. Looks like 450SEL or SL part numbers if there's a wrecking yard near you. I'm sure Phil of Buy Parts -> FastLane can hook you up.

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If I can remove the waste gate whatever I believe I can get at the rest of the exhaust manifold bolts but I cannot seem to get it off.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:44 PM
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You say 'remove the wastegate' like it's a separate part. You have a KKK turbo if your setup looks like this -



I've never worked on a KKK turbo but it looks like you have to remove the turbo first then remove the manifold.

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Old 02-21-2012, 09:39 AM
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Well, removed the exhaust pipe and the turbo and discovered that when the dealer changed out the trap oxidizer for the replacement turbo he broke off two studs because the gasket in two places showed the sign of leaking soot from two spots.
The small line shown in Sixto's pic is not on mine just the large oil line. The corrugated pipe was cracked and that is where all the clatter noise was coming from, which I initially thought was lifters. Have to thank Sixto for that one he said the gasket failing was a common problem.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:45 PM
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Well, removed the exhaust pipe and the turbo and discovered that when the dealer changed out the trap oxidizer for the replacement turbo he broke off two studs because the gasket in two places showed the sign of leaking soot from two spots.
The small line shown in Sixto's pic is not on mine just the large oil line. The corrugated pipe was cracked and that is where all the clatter noise was coming from, which I initially thought was lifters. Have to thank Sixto for that one he said the gasket failing was a common problem.QUOTE=callocco;2888393]Well, removed the exhaust pipe and the turbo and discovered that when the dealer changed out the trap oxidizer for the replacement turbo he broke off two studs because the gasket in two places showed the sign of leaking soot from two spots.
The small line shown in Sixto's pic is not on mine just the large oil line. The corrugated pipe was cracked and that is where all the clatter noise was coming from, which I initially thought was lifters. Have to thank Sixto for that one he said the gasket failing was a common problem.

Two days work and the corr pipe on the exhaust is changed and the broken studs on the exhaust pipe replaced, would not look forward to doing that job any time soon.
Sixto is my turbo called a KKK?
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