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One of the 300SDL always gives a bit of vibration at the rear when moving from stop. Vibration is very noticeable. It happens when car first starts moving in D, 3 or 2. It does not seem to happen in reverse. It has been like this for at least 1-2 years. The car cruises smoothly after shifting and on freeway without issues. I have checked the obvious, the flex disks.
What can cause this symptom? What else should I check? Should I be worry?
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. ![]() W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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Anything I can check? Suggestions, wild guesses?
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. ![]() W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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Does the vibration increase with RPM / Speed or is it a steady?
Check your center support for looseness. I'm not sure if that year had a 2 piece or 3 piece driveshaft, one of the support bushings may be rotted out. That, or you've got some bushing problems. Jack up the rear and throw it on jackstands, fire up the engine and brake torque it. If your rear wheels seem to be moving in and out perpendicular to the car, your subframe mounts may be toast. Maybe have someone do the brake torque while you're under there watching everything.
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Allen Kroliczek Oak Grove Autosport | Oak Grove Autosport 01 G500, 82 300TD, quite a few more..... |
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The vibration only lasts during initial movement/shift. Once it shifts into 2nd, no more vibration. 2nd, 3rd and 4th has no issue and car drives very smoothly at highway speed or anytime passes 10mph. That is why I ignore it for the last couple of years. I have some time now and would like to take a look and resolve it. I hope it is not something sinister in the tranny 1st gear.
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. ![]() W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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Does the SDL have a limited slip differential? Could be the limited slip clutches are releasing? My first thought would be the transmission or the torque converter, but I'm far from an expert there. My '95 124 will slip / vibrate on a full throttle launch sometimes, especially when hot, and I think it's either the transmission or the torque converter. I had plans to convert the transmission to a manual shift, but now my wife has been driving it for several months and she loves the automatic around town, so when it finally dies I'll get a rebuilt autobox.
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Respectfully, /s/ M. Dillon '87 124.193 (300TD) "White Whale", ~392k miles, 3.5l IP fitted '95 124.131 (E300) "Sapphire", 380k miles '73 Balboa 20 "Sanctification" Charleston SC |
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My SDL had a similar vibration before I had the driveshaft re worked with a new u-joint and balance.
It was subtle at first so I replaced flex disks, center bearing & carrier, engine - trans - diff mounts...no joy. I then read about u-joint notching causing vibration especially under load at low speed. So I changed the drive shaft angle pitch by putting a simple washer between the center bearing carrier and the mount area on the car body thus changing the drive shaft alignment.. low and behold much less vibration. So I added another and it cleared up the low speed and under torque vibration for another 10,000 miles. Eventually the vibration came back (notched u-joint) so had to have the drive shaft reworked.
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Found the problem. The exhaust was hanging loose. Replace the exhaust rubber loop and all is well for now.
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. ![]() W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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Fantastic!
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Good damn thing you didn't send the drive shaft out for work first like I thought may help...lol... That would have cost me a few rounds of golf! Thanks for posting the fix.
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![]() 1986 300SDL 440,xxx |
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Had the exact same scare.... my 2011 VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI, had same rattling noise, scared the crap out of me. Found out it was the exhaust. danged 2 bolts that mounts on the exhaust system just behind the TDI motor just came off.... due to diesel motor vibrations. Going to buy bolt fastener ... and hopefully keep it on!
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Nicknamed as 'MJ' Owns: 2011 VW JSW TDI, 199,000 miles of 12/3/15 2 of 1989 Mustang 5.0's. Looking for an MB 300SD Turbo Diesel owned: 1971 300SEL 6.3, 1973 280, 1991 300SE. 1988 Mustang LX 5.0, 1990 Mustang GT, 1991 Mustang SSP, 1992 Mustang GT, 1970 Mustang Grande 302, 1994 Volvo 940 Turbo and 1981 Volvo 240 DL. The rest are not worthy mentioning. |
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