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Old 04-21-2012, 03:43 PM
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See why you need a OM616 engine, your milage will increase.Charlie
No, then silly me would put a turbo on that and we would be back to 22 mpg again...
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Old 04-21-2012, 04:25 PM
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No, then silly me would put a turbo on that and we would be back to 22 mpg again...
You fellows will all be crying in your beer when I post the fuel economy results for the SD.

No BS numbers with regard to a single tank of fuel. FOUR CONSECUTIVE TANKS with the total mileage and the total fuel consumed. Each time............filled right to the top of the pipe.

I'm almost certain to crack 30 mpg with it.
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Old 04-21-2012, 06:18 PM
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Brian,
What do you attribute your good gas mileage to?
Actually, I've never checked the mileage on my own SD.

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Old 04-22-2012, 01:01 AM
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Brian,
What do you attribute your good gas mileage to?
Actually, I've never checked the mileage on my own SD.

Jeff
It's a bunch of little things that all come together:

1) Proper air pressure in the tires.
2) Proper IP timing
3) Head reconditioned with new valves and seats less than 50K ago.
4) Maximum speed: 62 mph.
5) Minimum use of brakes
6) Acceleration at approx. 2100 rpm
7) no a/c
8) no winter fuel
9) 85% highway mileage (at 62 mph).
10) Use of 6 oz. Power Service per tank for the past three years


I do have a suspicion that the Power Service is working because there was a noticeable increase in mileage on the SD this year and no other variable has changed other than a slightly reduced speed (65 down to 62).
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Old 04-22-2012, 01:50 AM
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30 is good for a 240, but I've read that closer to 40 mpg is possible when everything is done right. I get 32 mpg with my '84 300D. I wish it had a 5 spd manual trans. instead of the automatic...could maybe get 35-40. I think fuel is going to be a real problem one if these days, like when Iran/Israel let loose on each other, or something similar.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:51 AM
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30 is good for a 240, but I've read that closer to 40 mpg is possible when everything is done right.
The consensus on craigslist is that they all get 34 mpg!

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Old 04-22-2012, 12:34 PM
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30 is good for a 240, but I've read that closer to 40 mpg is possible when everything is done right. I get 32 mpg with my '84 300D. I wish it had a 5 spd manual trans. instead of the automatic...could maybe get 35-40. I think fuel is going to be a real problem one if these days, like when Iran/Israel let loose on each other, or something similar.
I've never talked to anyone that actually got 40mpg, you see it all over craigslist though, but I don't believe it for a minute. You could do it on one tank going down a mountain probably, but 40 is not a number that I believe a 240D can maintain over several tanks. I could see someone maintaining a 32-35mpg average with a well tuned 240D and driving habits that promote good fuel mileage.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:20 PM
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I've never talked to anyone that actually got 40mpg, you see it all over craigslist though, but I don't believe it for a minute. You could do it on one tank going down a mountain probably, but 40 is not a number that I believe a 240D can maintain over several tanks. I could see someone maintaining a 32-35mpg average with a well tuned 240D and driving habits that promote good fuel mileage.
What I was basing this on was not Craigslist, it was a magazine type drive test/report that was done way back when a 123 was new. As I recall, it was a steady state 50 mph, probabably flat roads, with little or no stop and go. I think it was done in South Africa. Unrealistic conditions compared to most driving in the US, I know, but they were probably trying to get the highest number possible to help sell cars. I did qualify my statement with a"when everything is done right".
Another point to make- most people I see on the road don't know, or don't care, about driving for fuel efficiency. They tromp the pedal to get going and fly up to stop lights instead of letting off and coasting. I live in a small town area where there is usually no need to drive like that. They are just "brain dead" about fuel economy, or busy texting, or daddy is buying the gas.
I think I still have that road test somewhere,if I find it, I'll post it. Later.
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Old 04-22-2012, 06:09 PM
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No, then silly me would put a turbo on that and we would be back to 22 mpg again...
Maybe not. The turboed 5 cylinder seems more efficient than the natual aspirated ones. Although this may be perhaps the higher rear end ratios used with n/a engines. There was one guy seriously fooling around that seemed to at least retain the fuel milage he had after the modifications on his 616. Of course how scientifically it all was is up in the air.
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