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Purpose of Encapsulation Panels
Is the purpose of encapsulation panels ONLY to collect fluid leaks? Or do they also serve a significant function of protecting the car from road debris?
Reason for asking: want to leave off my 92 300D for a while to monitor leaks...but don't want to if I'm putting something at risk. I know plenty of folks drive without them.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 157k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 175k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 144k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 70k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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keep debris out, keep heat in, keeps sound down
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Cheers! Scott McPhee 1987 300D |
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nearly useless for any serious protection. they do keep mud and dirt from collecting on the belts, and adjusters etc.
mostly there for sound and cooling system airflow. they also improve MPG by lowering the drag under the car. I don't think the designers considered oil leaks as a design for them...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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Interesting! I had (incorrectly) assumed that was the main purpose.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 157k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 175k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 144k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 70k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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The design strategy is noise reduction, not road debris or capturing leaks. .
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ASE Master Mechanic https://whunter.carrd.co/ Prototype R&D/testing: Thermal & Aerodynamic System Engineering (TASE) Senior vehicle instrumentation technician. Noise Vibration and Harshness (NVH). Dynamometer. Heat exchanger durability. HV-A/C Climate Control. Vehicle build. Fleet Durability Technical Quality Auditor. Automotive Technical Writer 1985 300SD 1983 300D 2003 Volvo V70 https://www.boldegoist.com/ |
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Noise that the driver would hear or noise that others would hear? (I assume the latter)
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 157k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 175k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 144k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 70k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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Driver's cabin noise reduction. that's the primary design of the plastic insulated panels...
vehicle fluids actually damage the panels. I will be highly suprised if the design wasn't also including aerodynamic vehicle underbody improvements...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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So previous owners can remove them and never include them with the car... thats what I've learned.
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So it sounds like, all things considered, I'm not risking harming anything by driving with them off.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 157k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 175k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 144k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 70k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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Absolutely no harm in driving without them.
They are an annoyance to remove and install, but DO reduce noise. The small effect on mileage, helping keep debris out of the engine bay and the noise reduction are all worthwhile to me.
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Chief 1991 350SD |
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While I have no evidence to prove this other than my own findings, I just purchased a 98 E300D with substantial undercarriage rust. Of course the car had no panels when I got it. 177K, and a NJ car. I would like to believe that the panels if in place would keep the splashing of road salt off of all the engine compartment fittings. A/C connections rusted, oil cooler lines rusted, brackets for intercooler tube rusted, brake line holder brackets rusted, etc.
No way for me to know for sure as I don't have anything to compare with, but I have my work cut out for me stop the corrosion and then prevent it from recurring. Just my thoughts about the panels' value. |
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HAAA!! you mean you have purchased 5 124's and only ONE had them on the car too? ( one of the cars went over a fence and wrapped most of it around the driveshaft though... kinda destroyed the panels... I got some bolts from that car though...)
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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the panels are NOT air tight or anything, they just have a flat cover to aid airflow under the car... I've seen PLENTY of cars from that area just as you describe... many with underpanels in place...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 560SL convertible 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! ![]() 1987 300TD 2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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This is a European Luxury vehicle = it must be quiet (not obnoxious) for the driver and general public. . |
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