I just met some nice people a few days ago that have a (as I remember the yr) 71 220D. it need a lot of thing done to it, looks to have been neglected for a long while. fuel leak, oil leaks, rust, dings dent etc...

Well they have a problem with the Radiator leaking and got a quote from a large radiator shop here in town to have it re-cored,...... $1,100.

So I did some searching here on the forum and on other sites/Google etc. seems the radiator for that old of a MB is NLA.

We measured my 80 240D and then his 220D radiator, and the 220 is quite a bit narrower. no way a W123 will fit a W115/114.

Searched through CL and then PNP to see what is being parted out. so does any one know if the 240D radiator in a W115 be the same? I would guess it would be, same car and the engine would be the same except for a little more oomph.

Iam headed over to Carson City (in a couple hrs) to take my 91 yr old Mom to the Reno air port tomarrow morning. noticed a W115 in the Sparks, Nv PNP.

MB did install the 300D engine in the W115 body, was the sheet metal redesigned in this area for a larger radiator, or maybe made it a bit thicker? for more cooling for the extra cylinder?

Charlie

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2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

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Here is what I found for you.

Mercedes Benz Behr Radiator 110 500 16 02 W110 W114 W115 ?? 220 230 240D | eBay


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Thank You Roy, this E-Bay one is for a manual transmission and would be perect, except I forgot to mention they need one for an automatic trans.

I guess they could add on a after market transmission cooler.
I`ll pass this on to them.

They do have the eng oil cooler, but do not have AC. I suppose it could be cleaned out and used for the ATF fluid. just a thought.


Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

I would install an aftermarket trans cooler.


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Thank You Roy.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

wow, its too bad you are 3500 miles away. I just went through this with my 115, and ended up having it very nicely recored for 400 bucks, which included cleaning, pressure testing, and painting the oil cooler as well. 1100 is outrageous

The rad shop I was in had a couple brand new 115 rads in stock in their upstairs storage too.

You should tell those people to keep looking around, they might find a much better price on repair, and possibly some old stock MB items laying around if they search a little wider

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What are the desired dimensions?

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A 115 240 rad should fit if the oil cooler is the same.
300 rads have larger hose connections then the 240s.

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60 Unimog 404. What was left of it, was given to me. Now powerd by 617A.
88 560 SEL. Bought without engine and trans. Now powerd by 617A.
67 250 SE. Cuope. For resto or sale.
64 220SE. For resto.

The 300 rad is wider in the 123 body. I think the 220 rad may be narrower and the grill too than the 115 240.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

x2, and the mounting is completely different. the 115 has a tall narrow engine bay, and its reflected in the rad, but the biggest difference is the mounting.

The 115 radiator is bolted to the oil cooler, and the outside edges of the oil cooler and radiator fit into slots on the sides of the mounting space about halfway down, and the whole thing effectively hangs free underneath. Then its further secured with a couple rubber donuts up top. Essentially, the oil cooler on the 115 forms all the integral driver side mounting support for the radiator, unlike the 123, where its hanging off the radiator.

To mount a 123 radiator, you would have to build in a new bottom piece to support the nubbins (maybe weld in the same piece from a 123), and you would have to weld in the clip section of a 123 for the top. Oil cooling would then have to be aftermarket, as the space is not wide enough.

in short, the 115 mounting is from the sides, and the 123 mounting is from the top and bottom

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Sorry, I should have been more clear.
I was talking about the 115 300D rad, not the 123.
123 rads are of course totally different.

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76 240 D. Bought in 1998 for $25.
85 300D. Got it for free with a bad engine. ( Sold )
60 Unimog 404. What was left of it, was given to me. Now powerd by 617A.
88 560 SEL. Bought without engine and trans. Now powerd by 617A.
67 250 SE. Cuope. For resto or sale.
64 220SE. For resto.