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Old 12-21-2012, 12:16 PM
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sorry i am in the mountains alone and no socket in sight, got to move the car of this spot today and i cant even get a call back from the shady snap-on dealer to receive credit for the one socket i boought, still have to put this intake manifold back together and hope it dont leak until i can find the right socket and re-do the job all over again, not liking the 601 at all.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:30 PM
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I didnt like buying special tools when I was young, but having bought them, over time ive found great value in them. Unless they are prohibitively expensive they often so simplify the job its a no brainer. For $37 I wouldnt even flinch, just buy it.

Sorry, I see your in a bind. Looks like the socket you bought was $16? I dont know the circumstance or what you have available, but if the socket is too fat, you could grind it down some with a bench grinder, being careful not to overheat it where it might lose strength/heat treat. If its too short, you could cut the top off and weld it to a deep socket. There are ways to get around things. I would never have a problem modifying a $20 socket to do the job I needed it to do. If you dont have the tools, is there someone around who does?
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:56 AM
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Does anyone have a link to the correct Hazet or kOKEN TOOL I NEED?
I know Hazet makes a great tool, not too sure on Koken but if it holds up i dont mind it at all.
Need to buy this asap, anyone selling theirs used?
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:26 AM
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It might not be the length that is the issue.
I had bought some Laser Delivery Valve Sockets and they would not fit either. It turned out there was too much metal in the top and above the Splines of the Socket keeping it from sliding down over the Splines.

I complained and sent pictures to the Tool Company and ask them why thaey had not simply copied the Hazet Socket dimensions and they sent replacements for free.

I had to wait for about 2 months for them to get the Company in China to fix the dimensions; but they did.

By the way the redesigned Sockets are excellent and the Torque on the Delivery Vlave Holders so low that there is no Chinese Tool quality issues.
Can you post a link to this Laser Delivery Valve Socket, how much $, where to buy etc?
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:36 AM
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Does anyone have a link to the correct Hazet or kOKEN TOOL I NEED?
I know Hazet makes a great tool, not too sure on Koken but if it holds up i dont mind it at all.
Need to buy this asap, anyone selling theirs used?
I am not sure which one Pelican carries Hazet or KOKEN. But, they did have it in their special tools list.

There is a Seller that was selling the Koken version but we are nota allowed to mention it here.

There is a Thread a month of so old that mentions the below Socket. Search for the word Laser. I believe it was mentioned where He got the socket and how much paid. If where he got it was not mentione PM the Poster.
Laser Tool Delivery Valve Socket; Fuel Injection Pump Socket 5471

I have one of the Laser Sockets and it is entirely adequate for the Job. While the Socket is made of good Steel the Torque on the Delivery Vlaves is low so there is no problem with it being strong enough to do the job.
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Old 01-05-2014, 11:51 AM
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Hi i am trying to replace the delivery valve o rings on my 1985 190D, DOES ANYONE have any tips on how to accomplish this without the special socket required? i have in the past used the "keys" that hold the valve by tapping them gently with a flathead screwdriver a few times until it opens, but this time i am doing more damage than good and it doesnt seem to be loosening.
Any help is appreciated, am stranded. thanks
I have used this tool on my car, and it is a quality item.............

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Old 01-05-2014, 11:54 AM
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Can you post a link to this Laser Delivery Valve Socket, how much $, where to buy etc?
I sent a PM.
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:15 PM
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If you go to the above site and page down you see a timing Set with a Dial Indcator. That set is for the Cummins Inline Fuel Injection Pumps.

I believe the Socket you bought is for the Cummins Fuel Injection Pump. Apparently the Cummins Pump is not an M Pump and the Socket is different.

Miller Tool also sells a Socket for the Cummings Pump.
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Old 01-05-2014, 12:19 PM
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I have used this tool on my car, and it is a quality item.............

Mercedes Diesel Injection Pump Valve Socket Engine Tool | eBay
Yes, that is the Koken one. The Koken one is made in Japan.
When I was looking into that about 3 years ago I could find no US sources selling it. The part number I found for it was KO4133. And, that is the same as is listed on the ebay page "#KO4133 (Same as Mercedes # 617-589-01-09-00)"
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Old 01-05-2014, 01:28 PM
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Does anyone have a link to the correct Hazet or kOKEN TOOL I NEED?
I know Hazet makes a great tool, not too sure on Koken but if it holds up i dont mind it at all.
Need to buy this asap, anyone selling theirs used?
Unless your in the witness protection program it might be a good idea to divulge your location as there my be a member near by that would give you a hand
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:35 AM
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For future DIYers ,A major complication when I replaced mine was that I stripped one of the intake hex bolts ,took me an extra 2 hrs just to remove stripped bolt and find a replacement .The job itself can be done in that time.Clean out the hex bolts with degreaser and pressured water first before turning any wrenches then blow off with compressed air ,youll want to have the hex socket all the way down in the bolt.I was able to reuse the intake gasket but this is not always the case.

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