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Biodegradable (engine) wiring problem: future for rest of cars wiring?
If the wiring harness's in the engine compartment failed during the years of 1993-1995 from heat, what is the likelihood of the rest of the cars wiring failing, not necessarily from heat but from time?
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1995 E300 Diesel |
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most things are made to fail now
search "planned obsolescence" |
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Underhood wiring probably sees elevated temperatures. Hopefully the vast majority of other body wiring does not so it may last longer. Actually it apparently does.
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I had posted in a thread discussing engine and body wiring, I'll try to find it. It is pretty much a sure bet that the entire car has the same wiring.
There are some cars that burn down because the underdash wiring degrades. Adding fuses to every main power feed is a good idea. ( and to the aux water pump on some cars to prevent the HVAC controler from burning. ) |
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I have worked under the dash and other parts of my '95 E300 and have not seen any insulation degradation. The PO had several under-hood cables replaced. It's certainly possible for the insulation not exposed to heat to degrade over a longer period of time but I don't have a hack on the number except "apparently more than 18 years."
The big risk appears to be single wires or small groups of wires not tightly tied in a bundle and sheathed and especially such things that are flexed regularly. These wires can have their insulation crack, break, and fall off. The bare wires then short one to another or to the chassis. Wires that are tightly bundled and sheathed may have insulation cracking but the insulation cannot come off because it is surrounded by the outer black PVC tubing and has nowhere to go. Risk spots other than the engine compartment include the electrical cable to the transmission (NSS and reverse switches) because there's heat down there too, and the door wiring because it is regularly flexed. FYI gassers have this problem too, it's not just a diesel thing. Throttle body cables are especially susceptible. Jeremy
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Quote:
A bear of a job to replace.
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Try these threads, someone claims that each harness was made buy a seperate company, I don't find this likely.
Longest Lasting Wiring Harness - w124 - Thread Which years or models to avoid with wiring harness problems? |
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