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Any use a block heater "just for the heck of it?"
I'm quite confident I don't need a block heater to start any of my cars in the coldest Rhode Island winter. But the heater works and the cord is installed on my 240D....so I thought why not? In terms of the heater coming on quicker, any of you notice significant benefits? I know it's easier on the engine and all...my main interest is my cold butt tomorrow morning....it will be 5F.
Thanks.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 178k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 75k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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It was -4F at my house this morning. I had plugged her in last night, and she started right off with only 1 glow cycle. The previous morning, when I could not open the hood, it took 3 glow cycles, and she HATED it.
Just sayin. Jon |
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I've started my W115 in the high 20s without heating. It took about 45 seconds and she lit off in high idle. She shook and sputted for a few minutes but didn't die.
It's garaged year round, but some winter weekends I can't take it out for a few weekends in a stretch. For those longer spells, I'll use the block heater an hour or two beforehand and glow for about 30 seconds and she starts and idles smooth save for "cold diesel clack". So the heater does make a difference. My compression is 290-310.
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It was 5F this morning as well....my first opportunity to start the 240D on a cold morning. I let it glow for about 20 seconds and it started right up with absolutely no difficulty.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 178k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 75k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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I use my block heaters whenever its 40F or below. Much quicker start, less wear and tear by far, and heat almost instantly.
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Yes, it is easier on your Engine and Starting System if you use the Block Heater and your Interior Heater will be useful sooner.
The only negative to it is being plugged in gives someone a chance to drive off with the Cord still plugged in. I know I would forget. I would have to put a Note on the Steering Wheel each time I plugged in the Block Heater to keep from driving off with it still connected.
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I use both block heater and trickle charger when we visit snow country in winter. Both cars will start in typical teens-twenties temperatures without but it's easier on the whole thing and you get heat that much sooner, as has been mentioned. I use a timer that turns on at about 4AM so the car is ready to go first thing in the morning.
Jeremy
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Unfortunately, the element is burned out on the 91....but I may hook up a cord to the 92.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 159k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 178k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 145k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 75k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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If you have the factory block heater, you get almost instant heat. A lower radiator hose heater doesn't supply heat as quickly.
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Never used the block heater on either of mine. Living in an apartment means having no place to plug one in.
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Really? I've never had a lower radiator heater but I really haven't noticed faster heat in the cab using any block heater I've had. It helps with starts but it is not like the coolant ever gets close to operating temperature. I was never scientific about it but it always seemed to me to be no difference in getting heat in the cab. Now the Webasto's, that is a different story.
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I agree that it makes a huge difference to the starting temp on the gauge. I as soon as I start up, the temp gauge needle my 300d is about on the lower bar. However, I don't feel the air coming out the vents is warm for a while. I never had a rad hose heater but my w116 SD had the circulating Zerostart tank heater installed. That was the cat's pajamas, nice warm air right away.
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Yes
1985 300SD
If I want instant morning heat, it will be plugged into a timer over night. At 32° F ambient, when the ignition is turned on after using the block heater, the temperature gauge jumps to 40° C with instant warm air. .
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