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Old 01-28-2013, 01:13 AM
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I had compression air coming in a reman injector ... took me months to figure it out. I suspect that is pretty rare and in my case the car would not even run. However, that is where the froth would show up, in the return line on the back of the IP, not on any of the other lines. ckamila, if you recently replaced the injectors or if there's any chance you may have damaged a nozzle while doing other work, it might be worth considering. I think it was a pretty bizarre thing, though. Are your lines to and from the secondary filter clear enough to be really sure there aren't bubbles? I replaced them with new clear ones before feeling confident there were no bubbles in them ... before that they were browned and I had some doubts that maybe I wasn't seeing a froth in there.
Well, yes, i did just have my injectors cleaned an balanced. IF i pop test them for spray pattern and pressure setting, will that be enough to tell?

Also i don't have any idle issues or an unbalanced engine as more throttle is added. Seems if i suffered from the same issue you did there would be other signs.

Return line is new so nice and clear. The other 2 (from the lift pump to primary filter and from filter to IP) are brown and yes harder to tell for sure no bubbles are passing.

I'll see if i can post some video of the bubble surge tomorrow.

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Old 01-28-2013, 02:02 AM
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Well, yes, i did just have my injectors cleaned an balanced. IF i pop test them for spray pattern and pressure setting, will that be enough to tell?

Also i don't have any idle issues or an unbalanced engine as more throttle is added. Seems if i suffered from the same issue you did there would be other signs.
On my faulty injector, when the fuel-line nut on top of the injector was cracked, bubbles/froth would come out interminably (which for a long time I had assumed were coming from the IP). You could try just cracking the nut on each injector, one at a time, and looking for bubbles (including as you apply some throttle). If none of them bubble I don't think that's the problem. If you're seeing air coming out of one line, you could try taking that one out and pop testing it ... if spray pattern and pressure are OK, I don't think you have a nozzle problem. I wish I had taken my faulty one to get pop tested (or dissected) but I needed to send it back to get the warranty honored ... would have been interesting to see what it did.
I do also think if you had this problem, you would be having more issues with the way the engine was running. Mine would only run on three cylinders, and if I tightened down that line, it would airlock and stop running altogether.
I would probably pursue the simpler solutions first (leak on the supply side of the lift pump), but I thought it was worth mentioning that it is technically possible to have air get into the pump on the other side.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:07 PM
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Well, yes, i did just have my injectors cleaned an balanced. IF i pop test them for spray pattern and pressure setting, will that be enough to tell?

Also i don't have any idle issues or an unbalanced engine as more throttle is added. Seems if i suffered from the same issue you did there would be other signs.

Return line is new so nice and clear. The other 2 (from the lift pump to primary filter and from filter to IP) are brown and yes harder to tell for sure no bubbles are passing.

I'll see if i can post some video of the bubble surge tomorrow.

thanks,

chris
I think it would be easier to leave the Injectors on the Engine and replace the Fuel Return lines with ClearTubing and see if you are getting bubbles out of the Injectors.
For a temp look I suppose any cheap clear plastic tubing might work.

If you want to leave the clear Fuel Retun Lines on the Injectors some Members have used: 1/8" ID
Oregon (as in Chainsaw) Brand, it is a Tygon fuel hose.
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Youtube video link IMG 0104 - YouTube showing air in return line. Best view around the 1 minute mark since video is rotated 90 degrees..

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