123 turbo started in 81 for the wagon, and 82 for the sedan and coupe my list notes that change...
non turbo is 3.46 turbo up to 84 is 3.07 85 is 2.88

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 560SL convertible
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
2005 Dodge Sprinter 2500 158"WB
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

Oh, I see. I didn't know if the turbo and non turbo models were sold side by side. I suppose my parts car has the 3.07. I'd like to squeeze a few more highway miles out of the wagon, just don't want to be defeated by every hill.

Even with 2.88's a properly running 617 turbo shouldn't have problems with hills. If you're having problems on hills, you have another issue-fuel supply issue, ALDA plumbing, fuel supply issue, soft wastegate spring, fuel supply issue, improperly tuned automatic transmission, fuel supply issue, etc.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 401,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.
99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles.

I have an NA 300D with a 3.46. I'm not the OP, I was thread-jacking. I don't really have problems with hills now really, have to just be going pretty quick at the bottom to maintain speed at the top I was just wondering how much worse hill climbs might be with a 3.07. I live in the mountains, everything is a hill.

I built up a car using a euro 300D and a 307 diff. Taking off on an incline was a little dicey but once moving I never had an issue. I don't mind shifting down for hills though and some seem to resent it. With a four speed and it all in an 83 240D body it got 30 mpg with regularity.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Well, you might just have to be a little quicker at the bottom for a run up the hills going to a 3:07. looks like a 11.28% difference between a 3:46 and a 3:07 Diff.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

I have a 3.07 under my 300 TD (NA) and what a relieve it is. The wheels are 195 65 15. And the speedo is dead on. Just sweet.

I live in the mountains too. The longest hills, with load, I have to take at 8o km/h -50mph. If not I gear back to third. On a side note; I am looking forward to getting the turbodiesel motor in, since I am shying away from using my trailer.

I started out with a 3.92, if I recall correctly. (The car was a 200 T) Quite hysterical at 80km/h.
Then I had a 3.69 from a 300TD NA. That was better, but I couldn´t accept the high rpm´s, even tough I am living in a country where the speed limit is mostly 80km/h-50mph (!) ( a freeway, what is that?!)

I still have trouble picturing the odd german grinding away at 120-140km/h 75-90mph on the autobahn with that standard 3.69...

I don't. I used to do it all the time in my 240D. Lots of times I would just floor it and leave it there until it was time to slow down or until my leg started cramping.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 401,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 26,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.
99 Mazda Miata 183,xxx miles.

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