So I looked at a rusted out and basically parts car euro 300d with 5 speed manual, non turbo. What is the transmission worth??? I know this is a unicorn, but not really sure the value of the transmission alone, the rest of the car is crap, headlights were the only nice part on it. Thoughts? I find it hard to pay out when the car is so rough, but I do know the trans is very rare around here and expensive to import off ebay.de and just wondering exactly what one should pay for this...

Since many want to convert from an Automatic to Manual Transmission I think someone who needs the Transmission would also want the Flywheel, Driveshaft and the Clutch parts (if only as a core to get a new Clutch).

Someone will have to chime in and say if the Flywheel could be used on a 617.952 or a 616.

You also might look on eBay and see what the other parts of the Car are selling for.

I think there is likely more Buyers in the US than Canada.

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The FW will fit the 616 and the 617 engines. this will be the 38lb fw which is super rare to locate along with the 5-spd trans. this is the transmission the OD 5-th gear.

There was a 5-spd trans that was selling for around $1000. it may have had the shifter and linkages too, I don`t remember.

If you don`t want these parts, there sure will be someone who does.

Put it all together as a kit. FW, transmission, shift rods, shifter, peddles, front section of the driveline and the transmission X-mount.


Took me over 3 years to find one of these Flywheels.


If you can pick up the car cheap enough, part it out and you will more than recoup your money.
How is the dash? crack free ones are hard to find also.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

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The five speeds are very very rare and desireable. Judging by recent ebay results a complete five speed conversion kit with the 38# flywheel might bring north of $2,000 if complete and in good repair.

I would not waste the 38# flywheel on a 240 though. The 240 flywheels can be had for about $100 and the 38# flywheels at about $300 or more.

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..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I was thinking $1000 for transmission and related parts as well.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

The last few on eBay have gone for about $2250 + shipping. Get it! Get it!! Get it!!! Get it!!!! Get it!!!

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1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod

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I will be in the Ottawa visiting my daughter and some grandchildren in a couple of months. In Oleans actually. If you decide for whatever reason not to use this yourself or not buy the car can you private message me.

Finders fee by the way is okay if within reason. I reside in nova Scotia and have had several locally just miss me in acquiring them.

I suspect there were more five speeds per capita returned to Canada with serviceman than was typical in the states. Also when you say five speed you do mean five forward speeds and not four forward and one reverse. The four forward speed is not difficult or expensive to aquire. What does the person want for the car? Sounds like the body is shot. So it is not going back on the road. Also the actual condition of that transmission can be a factor as well.

The farther north the more crack free dashes percentagewise. Just less heat up here. Do not get me wrong though we also have our share of cracked ones..

Tom, would not the heavier flywheel be more beneficial on the four cylinder? Less firing strokes per revolution. Although it would reduce acceleration a little. Taking more time to get the mass moving.

No I don't think so. The heavier fw would possibly make it smoother but would hurt acceleration around town and possibly impact town fuel economy too. In any case the 28# fw works fine for the 240 so no reason not to get one and sell off the 38# fw to someone doing a 617 turbo swap.

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Now Tom, I do not see how you can hurt acceleration on a 240d. You are right though as there is no need after I thought it through.

Actually the young fellow staying with us just went out in the garage to inspect the 240d I suggested he might get to use when he gets his drivers licence next year.

I felt I should spare him the conditions of doing so until the time is closer. Something like those that have the marbles control the game. He may as well learn earlier in life than later.

You know the stuff like marks at school where I want to see them. He had his first girlfriend out in a field yesterday. Harmless I suspect but then again in todays generation who knows. I may have to keep a closer eye on him perhaps to protect him from some of those aggressive females.

I am really not sure what the amount is, the owner is not coming out with a figure! I imagine something silly like $1500 would do it, I did not offer half that yet as the car is junk, dirty, full of bondo, bumper re bars are homemade steel tubing, tires cracked on fake bundt cake wheels, not much else there to sell off in the condition its in. There is isn't one good unmolested body part on the car! The engine runs apparently, 5 cyl non turbo which is just a scrap iron weight around here. The car is complete though so yes all parts for a conversion/swap are there, but aside from the trans swap and euro headlights not much else to recycle of value. I guess I have to call him up and offer some more cash...

oh and thanks for all the input, it is more then I first thought!

Watch what you pay. Since it is probably not driveable you cannot check the transmission out properly. I imagine if it were to need syncro rings or/and bearings it could prove very costly.

Five to seven hundred sounds like about where it should pass hands at. You just cannot tell in advance what you are getting. The last rust bucket locally with this setup was driveable and on the road. It went for 1200.00. It had a very good known engine and transmission.

I actually had mentioned to him a year earlier to give me a call when he wished to sell the car. He apparently lost my phone number and information. Any buyer that will pay a higher end dollar will want some form of guarantee that the transmission is really sound. The five speed is not as rugged and reliable as the four speed. Or if in my world they will.

When I had a 240D with the stock 28 lb flywheel, it was very smooth at all times, and I don't think it left much room for improvement. I used the same flywheel on my 300D, and it has some pretty noticeable vibration with some combinations of speed and load, but this is easily managed by shifting a little later.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.