W124 Front Brake Pads? Preference? (300D 2.5) - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Jeremy5848 · #1 07-10-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Doktor Bert

Akebono's are good I agree, but expensive. I prefer the PBR Organics that have a gray/white pad material with copper (non-ferrous) particles present. No rotor wear and no dusting.

D254DP for the W116 cost my $24.95 a set.

I hardly ever have to clean my wheels and when I do, the dust just rinses off....

Not that expensive -- I paid $38.80 for the set for my '95 E300, including new wear sensors -- but you did indeed get a good price on the PBR Organics (but are they truly organic? Inquiring minds / organic farmers everywhere / want to know!)

Jeremy

Doktor Bert · #2 07-10-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy5848

Not that expensive -- I paid $38.80 for the set for my '95 E300, including new wear sensors -- but you did indeed get a good price on the PBR Organics (but are they truly organic? Inquiring minds / organic farmers everywhere / want to know!)

Jeremy

Yes, well 'organic' as I am told refers to a non-asbestos friction material that has no ferrous metal in it. Semi-Metallics and Ceramics wear rotors quickly, no ferrous pads do not.

I brake aggressively and they are great pads....

Equestrian · #3 07-10-2013, 06:43 AM

Two notes, depending on your local autozone most offer a lifetime warranty on their gold pads and get this it covers wear. So in other words you can bring in worn out pads and swap them as long as they were duralast golds. I'm on my second set of "free" pads. You can change the single piston fronts four the fours, awesome upgrade and not too expensive if your good at parts hunting.

Mölyapina · #4 07-10-2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Equestrian

Two notes, depending on your local autozone most offer a lifetime warranty on their gold pads and get this it covers wear. So in other words you can bring in worn out pads and swap them as long as they were duralast golds. I'm on my second set of "free" pads. You can change the single piston fronts four the fours, awesome upgrade and not too expensive if your good at parts hunting.

Whaaat.....? Wish I'd known that.

JamesDean · #5 07-10-2013, 08:44 AM

Well looks like the ATE Premium One are NLA in the US. I think I discovered that a few months/years ago but wasn't sure. I thought they were back when I saw them on the one website but oh well.

I think I will go with Balo rotor and Pagid front pads. I've had good luck with Pagid/Jurid stuff on my other cars. With the 300D I prefer not to get overly experimental. The 190 is a different story.

Doktor Bert · #6 07-10-2013, 12:18 PM

P.S. The set for the rear was only $12.95

sixto · #7 07-10-2013, 02:26 PM

I'll second what Jeremy said about Akebono - takes more pedal pressure than any other pad I recall under normal braking but there when you mash the pedal, and the front wheels stay as clean as the rear wheels (not Akebono) with no effort. I heard from folks who do that sort of thing that Akebono are decent track pads.

Sixto
87 300D

Doktor Bert · #8 07-10-2013, 02:41 PM

That's the thing I don't like is high pedal effort. When I converted the 300SD to DOT 5 brake fluid my pedal went from OK to rock solid, almost no movement at all. The combination of the PBR Organic Pads, stone-ground Balo rotors and the silicone fluid give unreal braking performance for a big, heavy car.

When you put your foot on the brake, it is as if the pressure you input is multiplied several times without you ever pressing any harder on the pedal....

JamesDean · #9 07-10-2013, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Doktor Bert

That's the thing I don't like is high pedal effort. When I converted the 300SD to DOT 5 brake fluid my pedal went from OK to rock solid, almost no movement at all. The combination of the PBR Organic Pads, stone-ground Balo rotors and the silicone fluid give unreal braking performance for a big, heavy car.

When you put your foot on the brake, it is as if the pressure you input is multiplied several times without you ever pressing any harder on the pedal....

I like my pedal to be solid and firm. I like the car to be stopped long before I hit end of travel.

My 300D has a nice firm pedal right now. I dont have to push it to the floor to get the car to stop.

I had Akebono pads on my 190E. I did not like them took too much pedal effort to bring the car to a stop.

sixto · #10 07-10-2013, 03:28 PM

Dang, now I'm going to be thinking about how much more pedal effort it takes. I'd forgotten already

I think of it as driving a Citroen.

Sixto
87 300D

Doktor Bert · #11 07-10-2013, 04:12 PM

LOL!!!!!

If you own a Citroen, you would be walking.... :-)

rdon1 · #12 07-10-2013, 09:54 PM

Doktor Bert, it would be helpful to know where you purchased the PBR pads...

Doktor Bert · #13 07-10-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rdon1

Doktor Bert, it would be helpful to know where you purchased the PBR pads...

I bought them from Napa in Palm Springs...but you can get them online from a number of suppliers.

JamesDean · #14 07-14-2013, 12:32 AM

Alright folks! Just finished this job. Pretty straight forward as far as brakes goes. Never did a brake job on a single piston MB setup before.

I went with Balo rotors and Pagid pads. The Balo's were made in germany. yay!

When I took the old rotors and pads off, the rotors were pretty worn but the pads had good life left in them. I emailed the PO to see where he bought them. He said he ordered them from the dealership. They were actually JURID pads.

I believe Pagid/Jurid were OEM for pads on these cars.