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Old 05-25-2014, 10:26 AM
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In case anyone missed it, the solution was posted in a PDF file back in post #11 on this thread. Straight from the factory Mercedes documentation. I didn't hear it from by sister's best friend's brother's second cousin who saw it on Facebook on their phone. I confirmed it myself, on my W210 1997 E420 on the dyno. It works. Don't re-invent the wheel.

For those wondering, no, pushing the "ESP Off" button on the console won't work. There will be an engine rev limiter which prevents going to redline. The system MUST be fully disabled as described in the PDF in post #11. The "ESP Off" button should really be labeled "ESP Mostly Off", or "ESP Off with Side Effects", but I guess they figured the font would be too small.

As to the guy selling the software upgrade trying to tell you don't bother with the dyno... that would make me even more intent on the dyno results. Sounds like he's hoping you never find out the measured power gain is below what they claim. Only one way to find out. The "too many variables" is a bluff... the dyno system will automatically compensate for weather conditions. You'll need to make sure the engine/trans is somewhat similar temperatures and there were no other changes since the previous run (i.e., same wheels/tires, no other mechanical changes/upgrades to the motor, etc).




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Old 05-25-2014, 03:52 PM
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In case anyone missed it, the solution was posted in a PDF file back in post #11 on this thread. Straight from the factory Mercedes documentation. I didn't hear it from by sister's best friend's brother's second cousin who saw it on Facebook on their phone. I confirmed it myself, on my W210 1997 E420 on the dyno. It works. Don't re-invent the wheel.

For those wondering, no, pushing the "ESP Off" button on the console won't work. There will be an engine rev limiter which prevents going to redline. The system MUST be fully disabled as described in the PDF in post #11. The "ESP Off" button should really be labeled "ESP Mostly Off", or "ESP Off with Side Effects", but I guess they figured the font would be too small.

As to the guy selling the software upgrade trying to tell you don't bother with the dyno... that would make me even more intent on the dyno results. Sounds like he's hoping you never find out the measured power gain is below what they claim. Only one way to find out. The "too many variables" is a bluff... the dyno system will automatically compensate for weather conditions. You'll need to make sure the engine/trans is somewhat similar temperatures and there were no other changes since the previous run (i.e., same wheels/tires, no other mechanical changes/upgrades to the motor, etc).


Great find, and I agree 110% with the depictions you give RE: the chip programmer guy.
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Sure enough, I jumpered 1 & 6 on the 38-pin port (simply used a short piece of wire that was snug) and got the ABS and ESP error messages on the display.
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Still waiting on a reply from Holly (SIL). With the holiday there was no one to chat up at Mustang.

Sounds like you're on the right path by blocking out the AWD but I can't figure out why you would need to.

More to come.......

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Getting a bit miffed at what I can only construe as the non-responsiveness of the dyno guy. He said that if I did the leg work to figure out how to disable all the traction control (well, GSXR did that for me) and if I paid him up front (which I'm happy to do), he would do the second test. Have sent two emails and left a voice mail....nothing. Maybe he's on vacation....maybe emails and voice mails aren't getting to him....maybe he's in the hospital....maybe he's dead. But PROBABLY he's simply ignoring me. I'd gladly go somewhere else....but the whole point of running the test is before and after on the same dyno.

Oh well....at least I'm thrilled with the performance of the car.

Dan, any word from your sister-in-law?
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Sorry - nothin' yet. We just got back from a trip and are leaving again on Friday but I'll send a follow-up note. Also, we'll see her on Monday so if nothing else I'll check in then.

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Finally heard back from the tech....dyno test scheduled for next Wednesday.
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Was able to run the second set of dyno tests without issue. Again, just a simple matter of jumpering pins 1 and 6 on the 38 pin diagnostic port. A short piece of wire held down with electrical tape did the trick.
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Old 06-11-2014, 10:42 AM
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This thread is worthless without pics of dyno graphs.
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This thread is worthless without pics of dyno graphs.
This thread is not about the results as such but about what needs to be done to run a dyno test on a W210. I'd be glad to post the graphs at some point, though.
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Glad I didn't go in the group buy
The group buy never happened....that was going to be with SpeedtuningUSA.
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Before and after graphs posted on thread having to do with the tuning: OM606 Unleashed: My 1998 E300 Chip Tuning Experience

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