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Need a reality check:'87 300sdl -daily driver or Garage queen
Hello Everyone.
I am new to this forum and have recently gotten the Benz bug. I am seriously considering purchasing an '86/'87 300sdl to use as my daily driver for 9 months a year. As I normally do my own maintenance on my vehicles, my expectation is that if I follow a rigorous maintenance schedule, this vehicle should be able to return 300k miles or more in it's service life. I am looking to spend between $10k to $20k to get a vehicle with around 100k miles or less as the starting point. I have a lot about this w126 300sdl and the om603 diesel engine, so I am familiar with the issues. What I don't know is the availability of parts(consumables,starters, alternators, vacuum pumps, glow plugs, injector pumps, etc.) to support this endeavor. My wife thinks I am having another mid-life crisis(lol, thank god for wives!) and thinks I need a reality check. I would appreciate any insight you can give regarding my 'pipe dream'. Please hurry since I've got the Benz bug bad and have my sights on a few good candidates on bay right now!, |
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Parts are readily available both from MB and many online stores. Its a non issue. https://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/4676449460.html https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/cto/4611515509.html https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/4671872462.html good luck
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Tjts,
thanks for your reply. I agree with your assessment on the basis of time dependent materials, and I would expect to catch up on replacing those items on a first priority basis. I just think it would be prudent to get as low a mileage vehicle to ensure the drivetrain is as healthy as it could be. Seems to me a 200k miler could be too far down the road to make it viable. |
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If you want an MBZ diesel, by all means get one.
If you're not in love with Mercedes and are just looking for a practical daily driver, you're going to be very hard pressed to do better than a 5-10 year old 4 cylinder car by one of the Japanese marques.
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617 swapped Toyota Pickup, 22-24 MPG, 50k miles on swap |
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I second tjts's thoughts on this issue. I daily drive a 91 350SDL. It's not the miles that I would be concerned with (mine has 322k and gets driven 35k a year). It's all the rubber bushings, hoses, wire connections, electric motors, etc that have issues because of age. I've spent a lot of parts over the past year and I still haven't tackled it all.
But that said, I enjoy driving the car enough to make it worth it to me.
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rust & lack of consistant care is what kills these cars. It is worth the extra effort & expense to find a one-owner and/or long documented service history vehicle.
Having a dedicated second car available to drive when repair or maintance tasks take longer than expected will go a long way toward marital harmony.
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I can deliver my 360K miles daily driver from CA to MI for $10K obo
![]() The bottom line is that high mileage car can be made into dd. You look after it and it will look after you. I would prefer high mileage cars sometimes as parts that need to be replaced probably had been replaced by PO(s).
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. ![]() W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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They can be daily drivers provided you have the history. I have never been stranded in over 30 years driving similar but also change lots of parts as a precaution. Not a bad idea to have a backup as some parts take a while to get delivered. Your heart has to be into it be certain of that!
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If you're willing to spend $7500 or so you should, if you're patient, be able to find a very nice condition, relatively low miles SDL. Absolutely no need to plan on spending $10-20k.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 157k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 175k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 144k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 70k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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Specific to that engine, it would be ideal to have a later head casting. An original casting can have no crack symptoms during the pre-purchase inspection then suddenly there's pressure in the cooling system overnight even if you never overheat it. You just never know. If replacing a cylinder head is enjoyable to you, the 603 is about as enjoyable as it gets. Everything except turbo attachment is well thought out and DIY friendly. The job costs $1000-4000 in parts depending on whether you buy a used or new head and how many while-you're-in-there's you choose to oblige. The bottom end shouldn't need more attention than crank seals ever. Then there's the transmission. 300K miles is a long life for a 722.3. Sure they can last longer. They can also last half that. Next is the car itself. How do you feel about long distance shopping for rust free examples?
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$10-20K for an SDL? LOL
$5K would get you an incredible example. The regular POS that pass through here sell for $2K, so $5K is ideal. Old lady stories are just awful. A low mileage beauty queen is worthless next to a driven and maintained higher mileage example to serve as a DD.
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Only diesels in this driveway. ![]() 2005 E320 CDI 243k Black/Black 2008 Chevy 3500HD Duramax 340k 2004 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 220k |
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Since the OP wants to find an example with 100k miles or less, I don't know that $5,000 is realistic for a specimen in all-round excellent condition.
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14 E250 Bluetec 4Matic "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 157k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 175k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver on Tan, 144k mi, wastegate conversion, ALDA delete 19 Honda CR-V EX 70k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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If one is patient there should be the possibility of finding something for less than 10K. Here's a 108K example for $7.5K. Not affiliated.
1987 Mercedes Benz MB 300 SDL Diesel |
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85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do. |
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Thanks for your insight
Thank you for your comments.
My motivation to pursue the MB 300sdl is because of my love for cars, and my desire to have a lifetime relationship with a beautiful car that is Within the realm of DIY(ie minimal electronics) and minimal plastic content(not like the paradigm for all new cars today) . The w126 '87 300sdl appears to have been as close as MB could get to a quality car before they went off the deep end with the w140 and the onset of the Lexus attack on their luxury market. Based on your comments, though I see a real disconnect between what buyers expect to pay(sub $10k) and sellers expect to get($10k to $20k) for a low mileage well maintained vehicle. The best documented 1 owner vehicles with 50k miles I have seen are closer to $20k. Vehicles with around 100k miles are priced at $10k or better. This comparison on the basis that all other considerations for fit, finish, rust-free, pristine condition are all met. $10k-$20k 300sdl lol, - maybe! but that seems to be the reality! |
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