. . . 1,900 miles later. Yep, car was running fine, shop drained but didn't replace oil and motor blew up nineteen hundred miles later.


Read item 2 Engine Oil Gone M.I.A.

MOTOR Magazine Article | MOTOR Information Systems

From article:

"VW and Audi recently declared that oil consumption of up to a quart every 650 miles is “normal” on some of their vehicles"

I had a 616 motor with horrific blowby and burned a quart every 400 miles, but it was peppier than the rebuilt engine I replaced it with or any other 616 that I had driven.

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'81 300SD

Some VW dealers have been rolling out that line to get out of warranty work on TDis for quite a while.

The actual Mercedes spec for allowable oil consumption in the older diesels is quite startling as well, IIRC a quart per 450 miles or something like that.

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Mac
2002 e320 4matic estate│1985 300d│1980 300td
Previous: 1979 & 1982 & 1983 300sd │ 1982 240d

“Let's take a drive into the middle of nowhere with a packet of Marlboro lights and talk about our lives.” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

Interesting article.

I wouldn`t have thought about the rods stretching slightly on a fully warmed up engine, compared to one that really never get`s to operating range. Then driven hard and up to operating condition causing the problem mentioned in the article.
I can see why the guy would blame the shop, since the engine did not use oil before on such a low mile engine.

I almost always check my oil first thing, in what ever vehicle I drive.
Also when on a trip, I will check it after stopping, for fuel, eats, potty stop etc.... just to see where it is at and to give the engine a visual for any other things that may pop up.

I taught my daughter to check the oil before starting the engine...or the car would stay home. She got the message, and today 20 some years later, she has that habit to watch what is going on under the hood.

Charlie

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there were three HP ratings on the OM616...

1) Not much power
2) Even less power
3) Not nearly enough power!! 240D w/auto

Anyone that thinks a 240D is slow drives too fast.

80 240D Naturally Exasperated, 4-Spd 388k DD 150mph spedo 3:58 Diff

We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics. Funny how that works

Wouldn't that car have a light that comes on to indicate low oil level? Before catastrophe.

Interesting article. He was on a long trip, he should of checked his oil more he may have caught it. I think most cars use more on long trips. Good for him they insurance paid. But a car will not run that long with no oil in it. 1900 miles?

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1982 300SD

Yeah, why no light, good point!

An Idiot Light.

Hopefully the insurance paid for new glasses too if he needed them too or a new hearing aid if there was a buzzer.

Heck why not?

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1982 300SD

The light did come on.
He pressed on, though. "Undeterred."
If your car sounding like a threshing machine doesn't deter you...I'm not sure what will.

I don't see how you can blame the shop for that. Maybe they didn't change the oil, that is a possibility. But to say they changed the oil and didn't refill it, just is not possible. You say you drove it 1900 miles with no oil. Pretty hard to get a quarter of a mile on an engine with no oil. Got use your head. In 1900 miles you needed fuel 3 or 4 times at least. Best learn now to check that oil when you fill it up. It didn't just fall out of there. Oh well, all it costs is another junk engine and install and you will be on your way. Buy one at Pull a Part for about $150.00 and stick it in. If you can't change your own oil, you'll probably have to pay for someone to do that also.

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1983 Mercedes W123 240D 4 Speed 285,000 on the road with a 617 turbo, beautiful butter yellow, license plate # 83 240D INDIANA

2003 Jaguar Type X, AWD. beautiful, good mileage,
Mom's car, but I won't let her drive it!

That and not checking his oil in 1900 miles. Some people shouldn't be driving.

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Whoever said there's nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes never had a cheap Jaguar.

83 300D Turbo with manual conversion, early W126 vented front rotors and H4 headlights 400,xxx miles
08 Suzuki GSX-R600 M4 Slip-on 22,xxx miles
88 Jaguar XJS V12 94,xxx miles. Work in progress.

Gives me the shivers to think what his brakes sound like.

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1982 300sd from craigslist $800 greased on one tank with NO CONVERSION in the Hot Texas Sun. (currently dead & awaiting engine damage investigation and/or longblock swap)
new daily: '03 vw 5speed jetta tdi wagon. bagged&chipped

That's true, but as my MB mechanic says, " In the 1950s and 1960s, oil was SCHEI** and now with the synthetics, it's much better.

Which is also true. Additives to dyno oil have made a big difference.

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Strelnik
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1950 170SD
1951 Citroen 11BN
1953 Citroen 11BNF limo
1953 220a project
1959 180D
1960 190D
1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr
1983 240D daily driver
1983 380SL
1990 350SDL daily driver alt
3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5
3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6

Interesting, its a liter of oil for every tank of fuel. Makes sense, if you add oil at every fuel stop. Loose more oil than that, and the engine is at risk.

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1st MBz: 1982 300SD
2nd MBz: 1987 300SDL
3rd MBz: 1995 S420
4th MBz: 1987 190DT
5th MBz: 1984 300SD w/1983 300DT engine
6th MBz: 1999 C230k I'm 3rd owner, got it w/57,235 miles.
and manages Mom's 2007 R320 CDI

650 miles per quart...that's horrible...sounds just like VW.

My 275k mile OM601 loses nothing between 5,000 mile 1 year oil changes...

All the M112's I maintain use virtually nothing either over 5-6k miles between changes.

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'15 GLK250 Bluetec 118k - mine - (OC-123,800)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 37k - wifes (OC-41k)
'09 Sprinter 3500 Winnebago View - 62k (OC - 67k)
'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
'01 SL500 - 103k(km) - dad's (OC-110,000km)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

My father ran across a Rolls Royce in the deserts of Saudi Arabia... it needed minor repairs, and was up and running... until the first fill up, the car was down 3 quarts...
tear down of the motor showed everything in spec, so he contacted RR... their response was first "can we see the vehicle?" apparently it was a one off build for a shiek or something... value off the charts, and the motor was hand built to seep oil as the car ran to provide effective longevity in desert conditions.

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