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Accelerator Pedal Too Heavy
My 1984 300 SD Mercedes Benz have the accelerator pedal too heavy that I need to put force on my feet to keep constant speed.
I apply some lubrication on accelerator cable but it still no helping as I would like. Other than lubrication, what else can be done to have a smooth and light accelerator? Thanks
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Nyck - TX - USA |
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I'm not sure what you lubed -- there is no accelerator cable in the 300SD.
Here is a recent thread on the topic of softening the pedal: Removed Throttle Spring - wow, big difference!
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"Senior Luna, your sense of humor is still loco... but we love it, anyway." -rickymay ____ "Your sense of humor is still loco... " -MBeige ____ "Señor Luna, your sense of humor is quite järjetön" -Delibes 1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod 2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die." |
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Wrong lubrication.
Hey Jooseppi;
I lubed the cable that goes to the linkage at the top of the valve cover. You are right, that cable is not from the accelerator. I liked your verse from Bible.
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Nyck - TX - USA |
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Thanks! I've actually been thinking lately of changing it, but I haven't settled on a replacement yet.
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"Senior Luna, your sense of humor is still loco... but we love it, anyway." -rickymay ____ "Your sense of humor is still loco... " -MBeige ____ "Señor Luna, your sense of humor is quite järjetön" -Delibes 1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod 2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die." |
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First of all, are you sure you just don't need a new rubber foot pedal?
I wore mine out and had to buy a new one after it was 13 or so years old, and the car had 250K+ miles on the original pedal. |
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Out of curiosity, what was it about the wear that made your pedal harder to press?
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"Senior Luna, your sense of humor is still loco... but we love it, anyway." -rickymay ____ "Your sense of humor is still loco... " -MBeige ____ "Señor Luna, your sense of humor is quite järjetön" -Delibes 1982 300SD -- 211k, Texas car, tranny issues ____ 1979 240D 4-speed 234k -- turbo and tuned IP, third world taxi hot rod 2 Samuel 12:13: "David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.” And Nathan said to David, “The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die." |
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OP, it's advised to clean the throttle linkage periodically and lube the ball joints of all the connections. I have used ATF since that's what MB suggests, but this recent round I used white Lithium grease. Both work, but the main idea to to clean old crud out, and put new lubricant in. That will help a lot!
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@Jooseppi Luna
I adjusted the bowden cable on my W123 a few days ago. If you screw the nut in the cable will get more slack and the car will shift earlier (lower rpm's), and if you screw it out it will pull tighter, and shift later (higher rpm's). I could screw mine by hand, didn't need any tools. I think you want it to where it has a tiny little bit of slack.
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"The MB W123 is so bulletproof, you can drive them forever. Which is a good thing as it takes that long to get anywhere." Betsie: 1984 W123 300D (hobby, 280k miles) Myrla: 2001 Mazda Protege 2.0 ES 5spd (daily driver, 130k miles) The Turd: 2007 Toyota Camry (wife's car, 118k miles) |
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Today I checked the accelerator spring in the back of the engine and it is a really big spring. First I am going to clean and lubricate all throttles and linkage and see how smooth it will be. If it still not better then I will try a spring with less tension.
About the Bowden Cable, years ago, suggested by a friend who works in transmission , I made some adjustment for shifting and it worked good. I did the same as Ceristimo described.
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Nyck - TX - USA |
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In the FSM there are specs as to the adjusted length of each of the parts in the accelerator linkages.... we have seen this problem before..... sometimes part from other cars are substituted..... or the relative distances are changed... and it changes the mechanical advantage of the pedal... it can make a lot of difference....
I would not remove the spring completely.... as I am sure it is there to provide a NON OVER SPEED situation if something breaks.....
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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I removed my spring almost two months ago and could not be more pleased with the results. Good luck!
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You think they just put that spring in there to harass you ? That is your car.... but the idea of feeling the need to post and suggest to others less than well thought out actions mystifies me. OK... here is a LIFE RULE... not just Mercedes diesel rule... If you do not KNOW the function of a part on a machine.... any machine.... Do not let hubris overtake you and remove it.... because it might be a safety backup part.
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html Last edited by leathermang; 05-09-2015 at 09:55 AM. Reason: added Life Rule |
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[QUOTE=leathermang;3473380]That is nice[QUOTE]
Reminds me of an old joke. Southern Belles were sitting on the porch. One said "look at those nice diamond ring my husband bought me." Response: "That's nice" Look at that new Cadillac my husband bought me." Response: "That's nice". "What has your husband done for you?" Response: " He sent me to finishing school." "Finishing school? What's so good about that?" Response: "Well, I used to say *%&#!!! you. But now I say that's nice".
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85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. sold to a neighbor and member here but I forget his handle. The 84 is much improved from when I had it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Lots of stuff to do. |
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LOL.....
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?threadid=10414 http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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I agree with this, often some ignorant soul will try to "adjust the idle" or some-such foolishness by making adjustments to the throttle linkage. Dig into the FSM, set all the throttle linkage back to factory spec, be happy.
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