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Old 11-13-2015, 11:55 AM
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I'll have them respond with what compression numbers the other cylinders had, if they can measure the height, put a scope in there, and what the other engine has in terms of paperwork, warranty, and its own compression numbers. I may even tell them I'm going to come down and look myself at it, put some pressure on. Even if I have them get into the head for the $400, once they pull it off I'm going to "again" tell them once they get in there some that I will want to come take a look in person. Not be not be trusting, but I want them to "show" me first hand their observations.

I think in this elite area they are used to people just saying "just fix it" and they throw them cash. I'm going to be different

I'll report back.

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Old 11-13-2015, 01:28 PM
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Pushed a little bit more. They didn't do compression on the other cylinders, as they said each injector line loosening made it react positively.
The engine they have is from a customer that had it serviced there for the last 15 years with records. The car was rear ended/totalled and they pulled the motor. They have other records of what has been reworked on the motor/head on that motor. He would give me 6 mth warranty on it. What do you think of that?

One thing he indicated to me is that the thing gushes so much oil in that cylinder that his scope wasn't able to really see anything in terms of cylinder walls, piston, etc.

What I did, however either way was told him to go ahead and verify by putting another 3 hours into it. At least I'll know. I told him I'm gonna be a picky bi*** since I'm not the trusting type and they'll have to be patient with me lol. I told them once they have it apart to call me and I'll come down and have them walk it through with me visually in person. Maybe I'll take pictures

I'll check back next week, and if anyone has inputs until then, it would be much appreciated!
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Old 11-13-2015, 02:37 PM
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Strongly suggest following vstech's input on the inspection. If its an MB failure the repair will be free.

BEFORE they pull the head, do a full compression check. 240 on #1 is low, what are the rest doing ??
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Pushed a little bit more. They didn't do compression on the other cylinders, as they said each injector line loosening made it react positively.
The engine they have is from a customer that had it serviced there for the last 15 years with records. The car was rear ended/totalled and they pulled the motor. They have other records of what has been reworked on the motor/head on that motor. He would give me 6 mth warranty on it. What do you think of that?

One thing he indicated to me is that the thing gushes so much oil in that cylinder that his scope wasn't able to really see anything in terms of cylinder walls, piston, etc.

What I did, however either way was told him to go ahead and verify by putting another 3 hours into it. At least I'll know. I told him I'm gonna be a picky bi*** since I'm not the trusting type and they'll have to be patient with me lol. I told them once they have it apart to call me and I'll come down and have them walk it through with me visually in person. Maybe I'll take pictures

I'll check back next week, and if anyone has inputs until then, it would be much appreciated!
I would not trust the mechanic and put a stop work on it.

1) Why didn't they do the compression test with other cylinders?
2) Gushing with oil, not possible. it is did, you engine would not run. Hydro lock.
3) You cannot inspect the cylinder with injectors removed. The pre-chamber is in the way.

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Old 11-13-2015, 05:35 PM
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Strongly suggest following vstech's input on the inspection. If its an MB failure the repair will be free.

BEFORE they pull the head, do a full compression check. 240 on #1 is low, what are the rest doing ??
They were indicating the compression check on the rest was skipped due to each of them responding when the injector lines were cracked.
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You heard an unusual knock since this occurred? If not the description fits the typical head gasket failure on these engines.

I also thought the cylinder may have been lighting off early because of all the oil fed in. That perhaps causing the knock?

Hydro locking damage with the front head gasket failure has not been mentioned on site as far as I know with your engine. Still it could happen.
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Old 11-14-2015, 12:45 PM
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cracking a line only shows 'compression' with NO indicator of amount.

Its your MB but I would damn well be getting a reading on all 5 cylinders.
Id also be following vstech's advice.
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Update, they got the head off and said I was in luck, broken gasket at #1. He said the cylinders, pistons, rings prechambers all look good. They are going to have the head sent to a machine shop, flatten it, new guides, valve seats/seals etc for much less than the engine he has. They are going to check for cracks, and look it over more. It's feeling pretty good at this point!
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Old 11-19-2015, 02:46 PM
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Update, they got the head off and said I was in luck, broken gasket at #1. He said the cylinders, pistons, rings prechambers all look good. They are going to have the head sent to a machine shop, flatten it, new guides, valve seats/seals etc for much less than the engine he has. They are going to check for cracks, and look it over more. It's feeling pretty good at this point!
Keep feeling good. Still make sure the shop that is dressing the surface of the head knows the low limits of material removal allowed. For practical purposes it is almost nothing. Usually they are not warped anyways for your problem to arise. Hopefully they will just check it and leave that alone.

Both shops you consulted obviously where not that familiar with your engine type. Your failure is very common and to be expected on these engines. I only hope the place they sent the head out to is. If there is a decent warpage you change the head other than perhaps sending it to a specialized shop that can heat it and mechanically straighten it sometimes.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:23 PM
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Next week is when I'll find out what the machine shop found in terms of its straightness, etc and will check back.
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Well everyone, update. I had them dig into it for about 2 hours labor and yup it was a head gasket. The motor looks awesome inside. They sent the head to a machine shop to clean it up. They did new valves, valve guides, lifters, timing chain, timing chain guide, valve seals, pretty much everything in there. Thing runs awesome now.

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Thanks all, just got it back and man that's how one should sound! (see youtube link below):

Wanted to thank you all again for your help! Thank you!

Thanks especially to German Care Service in Scottsdale for being patient with me and all of my questions!

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Old 12-07-2015, 11:05 PM
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