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Old 02-07-2016, 10:55 AM
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No, 150k isn't great. I chose it because we see it all day like I said. It's easily attainable. Something like this ridiculous gearing would drastically shorten the clutch life. Worse yet, it would probably damage the flywheel quite a bit so it would need resurfacing or replacement...
What data do you have to support this assumption?
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Old 02-07-2016, 11:08 AM
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What data do you have to support this assumption?
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On my 1983 240D. There is so much flywheel inertia that I can literally let out the clutch without giving any gas pedal in 1st gear. This is on flat ground, with stock rear end gearing (3.69 I think). Unless you are driving in San Francisco or Pittsburgh I would think lower (3.09 or 2.88) would make 1st gear more usable in most driving situations. This assumes you have proper clutch- gas pedal technique. I have known some drivers who have destroyed their clutch multiple times, (10,000 mile increments) because of improper technique. I' am hoping to make this change to my car in the near future.
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Old 02-07-2016, 04:50 PM
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I need to check mine when I get back to work Monday, but I was seem to remember mine being a 3.28 ratio.
The biggest difference I see in drivability is the shift points are moved up in the mph range to much more useful ranges. (if that makes sense)
3.28 is not an MB ratio... 2.24, 2.47, 2.69, 2.88, 3.06, 3.07, 3.46, 3.58, 3.69, and 3.92 are the ratios that I can think of that might be in your car.
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What data do you have to support this assumption?
The wonderful world of physics! Where there is no nonsense and numbers matter.
But do you have numbers? I think you're relying more on conventional wisdom than physics here.
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I' am hoping to make this change to my car in the near future.
Please report back! I have a 240D turbo and am going to try throwing in a 3.07 with a 717.400 5-speed, which would give me an effective first gear that would be the same as a 4-speed in first with the 2.88.
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:37 PM
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On my 1983 240D. There is so much flywheel inertia that I can literally let out the clutch without giving any gas pedal in 1st gear.
You can do that with most vehicles if you're careful. I can even do it with my Street Triple that has such a tall first gear that it goes all the way to 67 mph before it hits the rev limiter.

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This is on flat ground, with stock rear end gearing (3.69 I think). Unless you are driving in San Francisco or Pittsburgh I would think lower (3.09 or 2.88) would make 1st gear more usable in most driving situations. This assumes you have proper clutch- gas pedal technique. I have known some drivers who have destroyed their clutch multiple times, (10,000 mile increments) because of improper technique. I' am hoping to make this change to my car in the near future.
I have the stock 3.07 in my 300D with a 240D manual transmission. I generally run 1st gear up to about 20 before shifting, unless I'm in a hurry to get somewhere, in which case it gets run up to the dots. When I had a 240D I usually floored it and shifted at the dots. I recall first gear was good for about 21 mph in that car.
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