Watch Jay Leno's Garage "1970 Mercedes-Benz C111-II" Web Exclusive - NBC.com

sweet...

a lot of discussion of the diesel version...

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I just want to know what they did to the 617 to make it churn out 230 horses. Either they increased its redline or they squeezed a lot more torque out of it.

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big turbo, and lots of fuel... like a myna pump.

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1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
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1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

The lag must be something to behold.

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Considering the turbo and non turbo ran the exact same compression ratio, it was no slower than a OM617 n/a off boost. The one in the video is a 4 rotor wankel.

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I wouldn't exactly call the NA 617 fast.

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X2

You can Bet they ported it above and beyond what We have seen.

Apparently the Unimogs used in racing churn out 200hp, and IIRC they were ported to high-heaven.

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The car driven by Jay in the video is the V8 3.5liter.

The wenkels are far too unreliable and maintenance needy to go on a car show circuit.

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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!

The compression ratio of the C111 engine was
1:17,0 for the 190HP engine and
1:17,5 for the 230HP engine

1:21,5 for the naturally aspirated engine and the stock turbo engine

Gruß
Volker

Still sorting out your "," and ".". You Europeans make everything different!

So theoretically my 21.5:1 stock CR should allow me to lift a head with enough boost??!!

Dan

Thats all because of the Poxy 'Euro'

So its say, 10,50 Euro but we would say £10.50 pounds....

Dunno WHY they did that!--Gawd knows what goes on in the minds of those IDIOTS in E.U. Parliament!

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There is logic behind the " , " over the " . " . a period can disappear if an original document is copied / has imperfect printing process where a comma is larger and tends not to entirely disappear. ( At least that is how it was explained to me. )

Probably for the same reason England uses a mix of Metric and Imperial / US units.

Theoretically yes. But what is enough boost?
I have several OM617A around here I know of who run 1,3bar-1,6bar turbo pressure.
One certain of them has run 1,3bar = 19psi for 500.000miles.

longer Diff, speedo is calibrated = ~136mph



So that pressure seems to be possible. If you run more boost pressure I would reduce compression ratio as higher turbo pressure goes exponential into the equation.

I would not reduce CR as low as Mercedes did, rather somewhere to 1:19,0 - 1:20,0

Gruß
Volker