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Old 01-19-2016, 04:17 PM
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I don't doubt at all your success. I am saying though that there will be situations where it wont cut it. There are some vehicles with ABS and traction systems where it will come up short.

I am glad it worked for you in your particular situation. It is a handy thing to have on hand.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:24 PM
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I don't doubt at all your success. I am saying though that there will be situations where it wont cut it. There are some vehicles with ABS and traction systems where it will come up short.

I am glad it worked for you in your particular situation. It is a handy thing to have on hand.
Point taken. However, I doubt a standard 2-man bleed would work on those cars you mention with fancier systems.
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Old 01-19-2016, 04:33 PM
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Once again I am amazed by old mercedes. The only type of car car that with a brake system sitting open for 2 years through one of the hardest winters in the region and a capless reservoir, is able to be bled and function reliably with no new parts.
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Old 01-19-2016, 09:00 PM
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Point taken. However, I doubt a standard 2-man bleed would work on those cars you mention with fancier systems.
Sometimes the ABS has a bleed screw. Sometimes it takes engine running. A few years ago I had a neighbors Chebby pickup that refused to bleed and I suspected the ABS. I drove it up and down the road for probably fifteen minutes hammering the brakes and then came back and got it to bleed with the pressure bleeder. There was no one around at the time to help. It had no bleed screw on the ABS unit.

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Old 01-20-2016, 12:03 PM
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Wait, quick question. I just read in another thread that loop GPs take 2 volts. I've been running these directly off the battery. Is there a chance that I've fried them that way and that that is why the car won't start? Does anyone know what sort of voltage pencil GPs take?
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Old 01-20-2016, 12:50 PM
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Loops are wired in series. Pins are in parallel. Thats why the 2.X volts each for loops and 12 for pins.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:05 PM
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Loops are wired in series. Pins are in parallel. Thats why the 2.X volts each for loops and 12 for pins.
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So you have loops? Are the wired in series or parallel?
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So you have loops? Are the wired in series or parallel?
Parallel! So I must have the pencils with the larger bodies.
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There used to be some bushings available that allowed you to screw pin type plugs into an early, loop type head.

Hope this helps.
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Old 01-20-2016, 07:02 PM
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There used to be some bushings available that allowed you to screw pin type plugs into an early, loop type head.

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They actually make the pencil type plugs that fit into the larger holes. Bosch makes them and I know they were available here at one time.
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They actually make the pencil type plugs that fit into the larger holes. Bosch makes them and I know they were available here at one time.
I don't think Bosch makes them anymore -- they seem to be out of stock everywhere that still lists them. Monark does still make them, though.

EDIT: Saw your edit . Good to know that Bremi makes them, too. I think this one has already been converted, so I should just order some backups.
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Ok did some digging and it looks like Bremi is the only brand currently available. I know they make excellent distributor caps and rotors for the M119 and M103 but I have no experience with their glow plugs.

1977 Mercedes-Benz 240D Base Sedan - Ignition - Page 1

If you are so inclined Kent over at the "source" sells a "kit" to upgrade the plugs to the fast glow type. When I upgraded mine I simply replaced the loop plugs with the pencil style and made some new jumper wires to go between the plugs. If you go this route you must not connect the ground strap on the last plug. If you need help send me a message on Facebook and I can send some pictures of my 240D setup.
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Old 01-20-2016, 07:17 PM
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Also, this is the wiring for a W123 front turn signal:

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