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Old 03-05-2016, 05:38 PM
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Remember this car is for his Daughter, she is getting her drivers permit and this is going to be a learner car for her.

A Tach could give her a visual along with the sound of the engine w/o over reving it.

If you like me have been driving a stick for over 50 years, then ya we pretty much have nailed down.

A Tach is cool to have.


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The vast majority of people on the planet have been driving manual transmission cars for most of the automobiles history and they never had tach's. Only in the US did most people since the 60's drive auto's and even on Mercedes Tach's only started to be included with the 116 and 107's. Even the 108's etc didn't have them.

They might be a "cool" feature but unless you are on a racing track they are as irellvant as a heater in Phoenix and AC in Alaska.

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Old 03-05-2016, 05:45 PM
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Actually I'll go further. As I drive my 240D stick in Phoenix as one of my daily drivers, the other being my 2000 Sonoma, also a stick, the technique with the 240D is simple. You slam the acellerator to the firewall in 1st, 2nd and 3rd until you reach about 40 - 45 mph. Any lighter on the pedal and eventually you're going to get hit from behind. Once you reach 40 to 45 you can ease up on the pedal.

I'd suggest that especially for a learner looking at what a tach is doing instead of what's going on around them is going to lead to disaster sooner rather than later. If you really think you need to look at an instrument to tell you when to shift the speedometer has markings on it to indicate what speed not to exceed in various gears.

But once again, this is pointless. A couple of trips in a car is all it takes even for a novice to get a feel of engine/vehicle speed in relation to shifting.

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1972 Cadillac Sedan DeVille
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Old 03-08-2016, 02:16 PM
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The vast majority of people on the planet have been driving manual transmission cars for most of the automobiles history and they never had tach's. Only in the US did most people since the 60's drive auto's and even on Mercedes Tach's only started to be included with the 116 and 107's. Even the 108's etc didn't have them.

They might be a "cool" feature but unless you are on a racing track they are as irellvant as a heater in Phoenix and AC in Alaska.

- Peter.
Alaskan here...It does get up to the 90's in summer and the AC on both the Benz and the Mazda are out, making hot summer days quite unpleasant. At least the windows still roll down in both cars...

My first cars were stick and did not have a tach either, but my Mazda has a tach and it makes driving the stick a little more pleasant. Easier to keep the revs down when the engine is cold (I try to not go over 2k for the first 5 minutes) and when flooring the damn thing I can shift exactly at the point where the rev-limiter cuts in, which is slightly above red line. Powerrrrrrrr!

For a beginner that grew up in automatic cars, I'd say at tach would be nice to have. Not necessary, but nice.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:03 PM
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Well, I got the car out of the shop today so there's good and not so good. No new brakes as indicated (5,000 miles remaining) not a big deal. Door locks fixed for $79, fuel leak found that was barely a leak and fixed. Dash lights have various causes, still not working. Cruise, no luck there but who cares? The AC compressor has a slight leak but r134a is cheap. Overall the condition is excellent other than that. Not bad for a 35 year old car.
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