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Squiggle Dog · #46 03-24-2018, 01:06 AM

That's crazy that it happened again! As for having left foot for the brake, and right foot for the accelerator, I wonder how much that would mess someone up if they started driving a manual transmission car--go to put your left foot on the brake but then realize you need to push in the clutch, so then you have to move your foot again and get all confused.

Diseasel300 · #47 03-24-2018, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Squiggle Dog

As for having left foot for the brake, and right foot for the accelerator, I wonder how much that would mess someone up if they started driving a manual transmission car--go to put your left foot on the brake but then realize you need to push in the clutch, so then you have to move your foot again and get all confused.

Or worse.......they think they're on the clutch and actually on the brake when they go for a gear change!

Left foot = clutch pedal or floor.

Right foot = accelerator pedal or brake pedal or resting against transmission hump if cruise-control is activated.

97 SL320 · #48 03-24-2018, 07:01 PM

To those that say if a driver miss applies a pedal they are incompetent. Have you ever tripped / bumped into something / dropped something while while walking through your house? If so, you are incompetent to live in a house.

Speaking strictly about an auto trans car. If one foot performs 2 functions, there is a greater chance of " I'm not pushing on the pedal I think I'm pushing on" as the foot must be physically moved from pedal to pedal. Also, the chance of slipping off the brake and pressing the gas exists especially if the driver is only catching the right edge of the brake pedal. If they unknowingly slip off the brake and the car keeps moving, they are going to press harder ( on the gas ) hoping to stop the car.

If one foot performs one function it comes down to selecting the proper foot. I'd call this more reliable and eliminates " foot slipped off brake and is now on gas ".

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/how-to-deal-with-unintended-acceleration

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/its-all-your-fault-the-dot-renders-its-verdict-on-toyotas-unintended-acceleration-scare-feature

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In most cases, the driver reported that the sudden acceleration began immediately after the driver applied the brakes. DOT engineers determined that there was no mechanism by which applying the brakes could initiate acceleration. Additionally, they conducted tests to determine that, at low speed using normal pedal effort, the brakes could easily hold a car stationary or bring one to a stop even with the engine racing.

A field examination of 58 vehicles said to be involved in unintended-acceleration crashes revealed no evidence of brake failure or throttle malfunction. Moreover, these Toyotas were equipped with simple event data recorders (EDRs, or “black boxes”), as about 85 percent of new cars are. Of the 39 vehicles that fit the unintended-acceleration pattern and had usable EDR data, none showed sustained, pre-crash braking taking place and 35 revealed high or increasing accelerator position.

It had been stated in this thread that driving with 2 feet will cause a panicked driver to apply both throttle and gas. Look at the test below, braking against full throttle at worst 37 ft longer from 60 MPH with more than a few cars within a foot or two.

Also, if a "panicked " 2 foot driver may apply both gas and brake at the same time, would not a " panicked " 1 foot driver freeze and hold the gas down as well? In this case I'd be picking the 2 foot driver.

The Unintended Acceleration Test - Motor Trend

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The Toyota Camry (which had been recalled and had its engine management system reflashed to include the brake override function) and the 2011 Sonata were the only two that automatically cut engine power while the brake was applied, and as a result stopping distances were virtually unchanged (as they were with the still revving Nissan). The Subaru Legacy took 3 feet longer to stop, while the Honda Accord took 4 feet. The worst performers — Ford Fusion and Chevy Malibu — stopped within 28 and 37 feet of their respective normal 60-0 mph braking distances.

Diseasel300 · #49 03-24-2018, 08:58 PM

You drive how you want. Most of the people you see driving through buildings and blowing through traffic lights are elderly people using 2 feet to drive.

One of the main reasons of using ONE foot is because when you panic, you instinctively tense up. If your other foot is on the floor, it isn't gonna be jamming on the brake while you're jamming the other on the gas. It happens. All. The. Time.

There's a reason you're taught to use one foot to alternate gas and brake. We're not driving Model T's anymore.

vwnate1 · #50 03-25-2018, 08:20 PM

Wow ~ glad to hear no one was hurt .

Concrete filled Bollards are, in my experience, the very best but kinda tricky to make not ugly.....

Plant those suckers deep and they won't rip out when a vehicle smacks into them .

97 SL320 · #51 05-24-2018, 11:11 AM

On the throttle and not brake.

Starts at 5:35 , after impact car is trying to climb the wall at 5:43 brakes are finally applied at 5:48 , vid ends at 5:50

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK_Z1_Eyw9U

MCallahan · #52 05-24-2018, 12:40 PM

Left foot clutch. Right throttle and brake. Learn heel and toe and that is literal for the right foot on a straight shift.

vwnate1 · #53 05-24-2018, 12:45 PM

Sounds simple but some never listen .

I taught my ex wife how to drive decades ago, some time later I rode shotgun and discovered she'd picked up all manner of dangerous and stupid habits .

She's had collisions but refuses to learn .

strelnik · #54 05-25-2018, 09:34 AM

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Glad you are ok.

That field stone wall or a moat sound like a good idea.

When I buy my last place ever, I'll have both, plus alligators and goats to consume the evidence.

VS- Glad you are ok

As for the goats, replace the goats with swine-- they do a more thorough job of eating the evidence

vstech · #55 05-25-2018, 05:07 PM

It’s just crazy it has happened twice now...

koooop · #56 05-26-2018, 07:32 AM

Twice at my house too! The prior owner built a 30” block wall around my front yard after the first time. The second time an older gentleman fell asleep and somehow (it’s 10’ from curb to the wall) went between my Eldorado and crashed into the wall. How he missed the Cadillac I’ll never know. The wall worked.

barry12345 · #57 05-26-2018, 08:14 AM

Odds of a car hitting a house are low unless the house faces perhaps a tee intersection.

Years ago here a dad built a children's playhouse on their property. Unfortunatly a car left the road and drove into it with children inside. One died.

97 SL320 · #58 05-26-2018, 08:51 AM

With the advent of cell phones and texting, falling off the side of the road would be more common. RE: text while driving people use straights as a "safe to text " area but end up drifting off the road.

I've seen lots of instances where a car left the roadway.

vstech · #59 05-26-2018, 08:54 AM

Yeah. But this is a condo parking lot...
22 spaces...
My unit faces perpendicular to the road...