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Old 01-06-2017, 04:51 AM
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Oh well. Guess it's ok, it will drop low very briefly when the solenoid clicks.

It's on the back of the injection pump - which is open to the crankcase.

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Well the PCV was the culprit after all. I vented the PCV to atmosphere and now it runs. I had no idea that could be an issue
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Old 01-06-2017, 12:55 PM
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As far I know Diesel engines does not use electricity to run. It technically is needed to start the engine only. After that the engine run without the electricity. It is not like gasoline cars who's need electricity to keep spark plugs firing. This is why after the engine running you can even remove the battery from the car and it will keep running. I don't believe that your issue is from battery or alternator.
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As far I know Diesel engines does not use electricity to run. It technically is needed to start the engine only. After that the engine run without the electricity. It is not like gasoline cars who's need electricity to keep spark plugs firing. This is why after the engine running you can even remove the battery from the car and it will keep running. I don't believe that your issue is from battery or alternator.

That may not be true for some diesels. I have a '98 e 300 diesel. I think it has an electric fuel pump and a shut off valve that is controlled by electricity. I've never looked at the fuel pump on my car, but I think there is an electrical relay that controls it. Also, my recollection is that there was an electrical connection to my shut off valve when I changed it. Presumably, these parts have a continuing need for electricity while the motor is running.
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Old 01-06-2017, 10:30 PM
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Well, you may have some reason because when I wrote that I was thinking on my old 1982 300 SD where I had the experience of doing what I wrote above. Some time in the past I really did that experiment of disconnecting the battery and the engine continued running without battery.
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They had the crankcase breather tube hooked back into the sump ...
I see it now. Everybody look at photo 2 of post #1. With no factory air cleaner, somebody hooked the vent tube from the valve cover to the oil drain tube for the air cleaner.

As NZScott says, without a vent, crankcase pressure built-up (from piston ring blow-by). That would eventually have blown seals, perhaps pushed out the front crankshaft seal, but fortunately the pressure buildup pushed the stop valve out on the injection pump, stopping the engine. Almost like a safety feature designed-in.
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:44 PM
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Well, you may have some reason because when I wrote that I was thinking on my old 1982 300 SD where I had the experience of doing what I wrote above. Some time in the past I really did that experiment of disconnecting the battery and the engine continued running without battery.


Not a really good practice. The newer the car the better the odds increase of potential damage. Even just boosting can result in real issues to either car.


I do not mean by hooking up the boost backwards either although that also has been done.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:52 PM
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Just FYI, my '82 300D did have an electrically actuated valve connected in line with the vacuum shut off valve. Any time the battery was sick or disconnected, the car would stop. Seems to have been an added safety gizmo. It was not connected to the alternator signal, rather was sensitive to undervoltage and absence of the battery.

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Just FYI, my '82 300D did have an electrically actuated valve connected in line with the vacuum shut off valve. Any time the battery was sick or disconnected, the car would stop. Seems to have been an added safety gizmo. It was not connected to the alternator signal, rather was sensitive to undervoltage and absence of the battery.

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Must have been an aftermarket addition probably installed because of inability to fix vacuum leaks which were causing a no-shutoff condition.

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