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My '96 E300 is a quieter car, wife and I prefer it for traveling. The '95 E300 is more fun to work on since it's less electronic but the W210 has been ultra-reliable and there's rarely anything to do with it anyway (now at 312,000 miles and waiting for MBNA to send the second award badge, for 500,000 km). The engine is completely original; I had the valve cover off to check chain stretch at 270,000 miles (barely any, maybe 1°). In addition to a rear subframe, like that in the 124, the 210 also has a front subframe, resulting in more isolation, hence the quieter ride. POs took care of the initial teething problems; only thing that might be nice is the electronic 5-speed.
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Another example was diagnosing a weak alternator (low votage for several minutes after GPs turned off) vacuum leak to one one of the flaps in the long intake runner and figured out a defeat for the EGR. Also occasionally it throws a P0200 bad engine shut off valve code. I just delete it and ignore. Now I'm using the Torque app on my phone with a $12 ELM327 bluetooth device. Works even better. Quote:
Automatic Climate Control Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Memory - Mercedes-Benz Forum
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Now I just thought of something to ask the folks who have the w210 now. Especially in california. Do you have any rust problems on your car? I love the older chassis because there is usually absolutely no rust on a california car.
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It's apples and oranges comparison. The last time I drove a W123 for a daily driver, I was in high school. I'm now 33 years old. But I've driven W210 turbodiesels, for about 50K miles and I have 100's of thousands of miles logged on W126 cars. I can speak for those two.
First off. You're comparing the S Class vs the E Class. Totally different. The W210 handles way better, less boaty...More responsive. WAY less body roll. But the rust is a BIG issue. You REALLY have to keep up with the bodies on the W210....If you do, I don't think they'll rust out too badly. In winter, in salty climates, treat them AT MINIMUM every other day. Plus the spring perch issues up front. Always gotta keep a close eye on those. The engine bay is much cleaner and simpler in a W210 turbodiesel. I love it. I especially love the electronic injection pump. No more PITA linkage freezing up on you, or crowding out the engine bay. Among other things. Just a clean design. But there are downsides, because things are more electrically based. Requires a new working knowledge. Not to mention the glowplugs. Watch out for those. It should be a common search term on these boards. With them freezing inside the heads. I like the W210, but for me a W126 with an upgraded OBD2 interface and a turboed OM606 would be perfect. Until then, I think between the two, it's hard to decide. Maybe the W210, because it's shorter, more in-town friendly, cleaner and easier to work on (less messy wiring)...But I like the classic looks of the older Mercedes. Power is a non-issue. I think it's relatively easy to tune either the OM603 or OM606 to give more horsepower than you'll ever be able to use on public roads. Of course easier with a mechanical pump, though. I prefer the OM606 because they breathe better, but they have stronger internals. Stronger connecting rods anyways. If you want big power. But the OM603 can take plenty of power even stock, and you can always upgrade the rods, and crank the Hell out the engine to likely match any OM606. As for safety...The W126, IMO, has a much stronger passenger cage (from what I've seen)....But that doesn't mean they're altogether safer. Modern side curtain airbags are a big plus. The W210 is a safe car. I'd have no problem puttting a loved one behind the wheel of one. But the W126 is old school battletank ready. I like both for different reasons. I'm an S-Class man, but I truly do love the W210 for modern conveniences...(And better sound proofing, that's another big one with a diesel).
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