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Old 07-10-2017, 10:10 PM
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Exclamation 300CD Automatic AC Controls Shorting and Burning

Hello! My name is Nick. Thank you for taking the time to view this thread!

I have a 1983 Mercedes 300cd
When I bought it the AC did not work and the compressor was not hooked up.
The blower motor would not work at all.
The fuse box had a 25A blue fuse in the #8 spot feeding the blower motor.
This seemed to burn up one of the fuse housing clips, so i moved the #8 wires over to the fresh #5 location and installed the proper 16A fuse.
Still, I had no response from the AC controls!!
SO I opened up the AC control box to find that some of the copper connections were black and burnt.
At that point I purchased a new control box from a user here for the price of $75.
While it was coming in the mail i soldered some wires onto the burnt up control box.
I unhooked the blower motor and then tested the soldered up setup.
It promptly burnt up one of the soldered wires perhaps because it was simply too thin.

My Question:
Is there any advice you would suggest rather than just hooking up the new control box and trying it.
Such as: testing something in particular for a short?
It burnt up my soldered wire with the blower motor unhooked so I am thinking the blower motor could be ruled out as a source of the problem here.
Any type of checklist you would go through in my situation would be appreciated!





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Old 07-13-2017, 09:36 AM
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If anyone can give me an experienced detailed response that will ensure my new unit doesnt burn up i will paypal you $5!
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:21 AM
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Seized auxillary water pump is a known cause of frying CCU solder board traces.

Aux. Water Pump takes out CCU
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Old 07-13-2017, 02:31 PM
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As Alec300SD stated, it is your aux water pump that has seized. Your burnt trace goes to pin 10 which is the power out to the pump on a W123.
Replace the pump and add a fuse or as many have done, just leave it unplugged.
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Old 07-13-2017, 03:12 PM
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I read a posting on this forum a while back about someone who's car actually burnt to the ground from a fault in the aux pump cooking the CCU. Don't take this repair lightly! Delete the Aux pump, or if you intend to keep it, fuse it!
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Old 07-13-2017, 10:15 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys that is very helpful!
I will get Alec300SD's paypal since he was first.

I had to install one of those aux pumps about a year ago so it did fail at one point. I will be sure to put the fuse in this time.

Rick76 i like how you know what pin goes to what. Is there a diagram that shows this?
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Old 07-13-2017, 11:25 PM
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This is the thread of the 300D that burnt to the ground due to a CCU fault...

I lost it all....electrical fire high up in the dash
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Old 07-14-2017, 02:43 AM
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I installed a mini harness with 1 amp glass Buss fuse for the auxilliary heater pump in my 83 W126 300SD.

I used a marine grade crimp-on glass fuse holder and some scavanged keyed plugs.
It's not the prettiest mod, but it seems to be holding up okay.
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