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I would trust the MB engineers (in those days anyway) to weigh all considerations and install overall the best type shock available. I would go stock.
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Is it usually just you in the car or a full load?
I find new comforts too stiff for me but that’s what MBs through the early ‘90s are about. MBs are more to my liking since Lexus came along. Sixto 98 E320 sedan and wagon |
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It’s just me, seldom any real load.
Incredible the opinions on shocks are so divided! |
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Almost as good as an oil thread! Or a brake pad thread!
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Oh no, are we going to have to start avoiding shock threads too?
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I've read on other forums of people using HD in the front and comfort in the rear... any takers?
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![]() So, I chose to go HD front and rear. |
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Got a set of HD's from a 16v for the rear dirt cheap and found a fresh set of comfort's for the front off a clean 190d that hit our local yard. It rides good, I'm going to be putting w124 springs in the rear also, I like the firmer ride for the rear and I pull my 5x10 trailer sometimes loaded with stuff so I like the extra tow capability. Rides great, the HD's are definitely way stiffer than stock.
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Are Bilstein comfort or B4 shocks monotube or twin tube? They don't make it clear anywhere in their literature and nobody seems to have a definitive answer. For this reason I went for KYB gas adjust monotube shocks and never looked back.
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Not sure if twin or mono tube but they are capable of taking a 40mm lower ride height spring as standard.
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Great! Still wouldn't buy twin tube shocks.
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Well shoot ;
I've been an AARP member awhile now and all my M-B's, even the lowly 240D with slushbox and no sunroof, had the HD's because they firm up the handling nicely . Yes, my sweetie is, ah, "horizontally enhanced" in nature so she complains if I drive it too fast over speed bumps & pot holes but whatever, right ? ![]() If you want a floaty ride, buy a Caddy or take an Ocean cruise .
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My understanding is that the springs determine how stiff the car rides, i.e. "boaty vs go-cart" feel. The shock's purpose is to dampen oscillations, and they only act on the rebound (going up), not the initial drop. But, there are many types, so some sporty ones might resist in both directions, and some have integral springs. But HD doesn't necessarily mean "sporty" and may be better for mafia guys hauling bodies in the trunk. As-designed w/ Bilstein shocks, my 2 300D's ride fairly firm and certainly without the low-frequency boaty feel of most U.S. cars thru the 1970's, although I won't say the later is bad and certainly made long highway drives more comfortable.
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The Bilstein TC "comfort" and HD models (now called B4 and B6) are intended as replacements for use with OE stock springs. The Bilstein Sport (now called B8) is intended for use with shorter (lowered) aftermarket sport springs. I've driven my w210 in two configurations. First configuration was stock springs with Bilstein TC. This felt like OE from the dealer. Next config was H&R lowering springs and Bilstein B8 "sport". This felt slightly firmer than a stock E55 AMG. Both felt very nice. The softer config was smooth and responsive, not floaty or sloppy feeling at all. The firmer config was very sporty and confidence inspiring but was not rock hard.
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A reminder :
Cutting the springs will lower the vehicle and make it firmer, not smoother riding... Basic physics here .
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