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Old 03-22-2019, 09:58 PM
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More camber one wheel than the ither

More negative camber on one wheel than the other. I’ve always had the issue since I bought it. It’s one of my E300 turbo diesels. I’m trying to figure out why. It is lowered 1.5 with Vogtland springs and I spoke with Vogtland themself and they said they never heard of it. Prior to lowering it always had more camber than the driver side front wheel. What in the suspension could cause it? Worn upper ball joint? Bushings? Lower ball joint is new.

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Old 03-22-2019, 10:08 PM
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More negative camber on one wheel than the other. I’ve always had the issue since I bought it. It’s one of my E300 turbo diesels. I’m trying to figure out why. It is lowered 1.5 with Vogtland springs and I spoke with Vogtland themself and they said they never heard of it. Prior to lowering it always had more camber than the driver side front wheel. What in the suspension could cause it? Worn upper ball joint? Bushings? Lower ball joint is new.
Why would you contact the lowering spring maker for a problem the car had before installing their parts?
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:24 PM
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Camber is adjustable on this chassis. You have + or - 20 degrees of adjustment. If it's more than that, you have a real problem. See attached.
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Old 03-22-2019, 10:39 PM
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Why would you contact the lowering spring maker for a problem the car had before installing their parts?
I wrote the post in a fast time. The passenger side had sat lower than the other. I didn’t replace the spring pads. They were worn. I asked them and I solved that issue with spring pads.
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Old 03-23-2019, 01:41 AM
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Was a spring perch replaced and not installed to spec?

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Old 03-23-2019, 11:19 AM
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Was a spring perch replaced and not installed to spec?

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No car never had rust like that. Always out of the salt.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:53 AM
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Could he frame damage.

What issue did you solve with spring pads?

Following up on what Mxfrank said, for each front LCA look at the front and rear bolts, do they have fully round washers or do the washers have a flat edge? Is the flat edge towards the center of the car or the wheel?

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What's frightening about this thread is that the OP is a tech at a MB dealer.

I can see asking questions about a very specific odd repair or a difficult to find problem but this is basic stuff.
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:03 PM
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What's frightening about this thread is that the OP is a tech at a MB dealer.

I can see asking questions about a very specific odd repair or a difficult to find problem but this is basic stuff.
It’s frigthwning to you? I checked the lower control arms uppers shock mounts, bushings everything and I’m at a loss and can’t get it aligned. I’m looking for a second opinion. What’s your point? You have had no valuable input to the problem I suggest you go somewhere else.
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Old 03-23-2019, 05:04 PM
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Could he frame damage.

What issue did you solve with spring pads?

Following up on what Mxfrank said, for each front LCA look at the front and rear bolts, do they have fully round washers or do the washers have a flat edge? Is the flat edge towards the center of the car or the wheel?

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I installed eccentric bolts awhile ago and can’t get it aligned. I’m trying to figure out what could be bent. I can’t see anything with my eyes.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:29 PM
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If the bushings are worn, nothing will look bent.

FWIW, I bent a 210 LCA and most of the deformation was where ball joint holder is welded to the LCA. It wasn’t rusty.

How about the upper ball joints?

Those aren’t exactly eccentric bolts. They’re notched to let you install them inboard or outboard of center. There’s no intermediate orientation.

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It’s frigthwning to you? I checked the lower control arms uppers shock mounts, bushings everything and I’m at a loss and can’t get it aligned. I’m looking for a second opinion. What’s your point? You have had no valuable input to the problem I suggest you go somewhere else.

How about borrowing a tram gauge and a frame diagram from the body shop and measuring the suspension pick up points and suspension arms?

Even a measuring tape and comparing measurements left to right and an x pattern would give some clues.

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