You mean go electric or stay home

Sixto
98 E320s sedan and wagon
02 C320 wagon

I don't cut the shroud at all.


undo clips for shroud to radiator,

push shroud back past the fan

undo 4 fan bolts with good quality 10mm spanner


to put back together, same as above in reverse.

you put the shroud on before you connect the fan, then slide it forward and put the clips on

I never had trouble on my 1984 & 85 300D. Real quick to pull the 2 top clips, then pull up and the 2 bottom tabs slide out of their slots. Push the shroud back and remove it with the water pump. But, I recall leaving the shroud on while unbolting the water pump. I switched to larger headed bolts (Ace) so I can use an open-ended wrench (12 mm now, I recall) w/o concern of rounding off the bolt heads.

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1984 & 1985 CA 300D's
1964 & 65 Mopar's - Valiant, Dart, Newport
1996 & 2002 Chrysler minivans

Problem is the shroud doesn’t come out on some cars. And the space doesn’t fit forearms. I don’t feel that it’s exactly the same on all the w123s I’ve owned...

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

why do I remember this as being a symptom of collapsed motor mounts? -CTH

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- cth350@gmail.com
http://www.111lakeside.com/

Can’t be at least in my case, because I just re-did mine with Lemfoerder parts from Pelican!

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

I haven't worked on a W123, but on a 300SDL or W210 E300D it comes out with no problem if you remove the fan at the same time.

Was just thinking about how much I hated that shroud. Anyone made any progress with this?
At the very least, it'd be nice to be able to remove the thing without pulling the upper rad hose...

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1981 240D 4sp manual. Ivory White.

wow I don't recall this problem with the non turbo w123 300D.

must be a turbo model design problem.

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1979 300D 220 K miles
1995 C280 109 K miles
1992 Cadillac Eldorado Touring Coupe 57K miles SOLD
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1979 240D 140Kmiles (bought for parents) *SOLD.
SAN FRANCISCO/(*San Diego)
1989 300SE 148 K miles *SOLD

I made this thread regarding my 240D.

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)

Have you done anything about it?

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1981 240D 4sp manual. Ivory White.

I’ve hardly driven my 240D. I’ll cut off that shroud section next time I need to do that service.

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Current Diesels:
1981 240D (73K)
1982 300CD (169k)
1985 190D (169k)
1991 350SD (113k)
1991 350SD (206k)
1991 300D (228k)
1993 300SD (291k)
1993 300D 2.5T (338k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (442k)
1996 Dodge Ram CTD (265k)

Past Diesels:
1983 300D (228K)
1985 300D (233K)