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Old 11-08-2010, 08:48 PM
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OM617 Crank Pulley Wobble

Ok so I noticed a metallic "clang" from the front of my SD at idle, goes away at anything above. I looked at the crank pulley because I had a similar noise a few years ago and it turned out to be loose crank pulley bolts.. I notice the pulley is wobbling a bit.

So today I try to tighten down the obvious, as I thought, loose bolts. I only found 2 that moved when I tried to tighten them. I still have the wobble and the noise it getting worse. I took a vid but lost it somehow.

I am thinking that my balancer/damper got damaged when I lost several pulley bolts a few years ago. It perhaps took this long to reach it's failure point.

So crank pulley wobble = bad balancer?

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Probably.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:19 PM
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That's what I feared. Do you think a used one from the yard is worth a try?
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Is the balancer (crankshaft) bolt loose?
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:05 PM
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Is the balancer (crankshaft) bolt loose?
I dunno but that doesn't seem likely.. isn't the torque on that pretty high? I was busy with several other things today.. I will put the SD on jack stands now that my maintenance spot is open. What size is that crank bolt head?
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27 mm.

It''s a little tough for the balancing disc to wobble unless the crankshaft bolt is loose. (Which is not to say that the disc is wobbling.)

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I will have to take another look with it running since now I have seen some drawings of all the different sections. From what I recall only the pulley wobbles. The last time it got to the point where is sounded like it was knocking. I found most of the bolts sheared off or backed out. Only one was actually semi holding the pulley one. This time it's more of a metallic tap. I only assume its the pulley area because that is where I hear it, the wobble and past issues.

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Wasn't there an account a number of years ago of a balancer shearing at some kind of rubber joint?
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Wasn't there an account a number of years ago of a balancer shearing at some kind of rubber joint?
That would have to be the vibration damper, which should not affect the pulley.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:35 PM
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I found the video hidden in the sim card. I am converting to mp4 now, I hope the quality is good enough for mp4. Gimme a min
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It went from 172 MB's to 10 MB's
It will work for now... in the mean time I will try to upload the original, the estimate was like an hour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wshFGCThdao
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I think the MP4 is ok. You can hear it for sure. Looks like the whole thing is wobbling.
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Looks like the whole thing is wobbling.
Yes, it does. If the pulley bolts are in fact tight, I think you need to remove the pulley and vibration damper so that you can get a good look at the balancing disc.
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I could hear the sound but couldn't see much of a wobble. Are you sure it's coming from that location? Have you put a stethoscope on it? Could it be the vacuum pump?
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Old 11-09-2010, 12:05 AM
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I will listen with a tool.. I don't have a stethoscope. Again I am only assuming the pulley cause it is clearing wobbling. I have compared it to my TD and that thing is rock solid.

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