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Old 07-06-2019, 11:03 AM
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No. It looks the same. There is a part number on the side of it. Perhaps you could tell that way. Don’t really know, however, why you’d need to try if you can just call a dealership and find out...
I guess it is just a personality issue. My first go to resource is myself (I am a reclusive parson that seldom speaks to people). Also I sometimes pass on information to other forum members and if I could say you can lift the hood and look at something and easily tell if the update was inplace think that would be a good thing.

Fortunately I have a Federal Car without the evil device on it so I don't need to identify mine.

I have owned my Mercedes for 12 years and I have never called the Mercedes dealer.

Don't know if it is the same now but in the Past the Long Beach Mercedes dealer had a lot of poor feed back on the Internet. A week ago my Wife drove buy the Long Beach Mercedes dealer and she said a few people were picking against it and it was not a labor dispute.

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Old 07-06-2019, 11:31 AM
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Hello everyone!
So my wife and I decided to get a little project car. I've got a lot of years as a DIY and friend's mechanic so I know my way around a gas engine. Diesel is a whole other story. I'm sure I'll be all over the place and I do have a lot of questions but I'll try to stay somewhat linear.

I'm on mobile so I can't upload images due to size requirements but I will post imgur links if that is allowed; I will delete them if need be.

We scooped up a 1985 California (still got the trap ox) 300D with 177,000 miles. It starts up immediately and runs well. The vacuum was a mess and I am peiceing it back together the best I can. (Didnt even shut off with the key, but i got that!) I've got the transmission shifting better (nothing was connected to the ALDA or the BFS as the elbows were rotted (blue flying saucer???)

So with that, I'll dive right in:

1. There is an inline electric fuel pump scotch-locked under the hood haha. As far as I can tell, there is no pump like that on this vehicle... What would make someone do this? Like what part may have failed? In the past, i have installed one on my old Toyota when my mechanical pump dropped a deuce. Picture link below.

300D https://imgur.com/gallery/MwMG2rI

2. When I inevitabley remove this, as well as replacing a return line that is swollen like all get out, is there a specific priming procedure that needs to be performed? ( this is my first diesel so please bare with me here)

3. I don't think I'm getting any boost pressure.. I believe I hooked the overboost protection valve properly. I want to test this out. Im having trouble understanding the valve.. isot normally open and when too much pressure is induced, does it close and send a signal?? Ive been reading thread after thread but i feel there is so much to do, I dont know where to start! Picture is below (that line that you see going to nothing appears to vent to the cabin so I guess that's nothing)

300D https://imgur.com/gallery/OR5sFQg

Guys, I know this was a book but any and all help you send my way is truly appreciated. My wife and I are excited and love this car and I wanna be able to make it safe and proper for her. Thanks so much!!
I have not read of a way to test the overboost protection valve.

My personal view:
The exhaust gas pressure and flow turns the tubo which intern compresses the air when it turns fast enough to do that. The increased manifold pressure causes the ALDA to give more Fuel.

When you go say up hill the combustion pressure in the cylinder rises and creates a higher flow and pressure of exhaust gas as explained eventually causes a an even higher manifold pressure in which again the ALDA allows more fuel. Kind of a circular issue.

If you are towing a trailer up a steep hill the combustion pressure in the cylinders is going to shoot up and your exhaust flow and pressure will shoot up and since you are sort of lugging the engine you don't want the extra manifold pressure causing more fuel to be delivered. What you need to do is down shift. Anyway in that situation the overboost protection valve cuts off/reduces the manifold pressure/signal to the ALDA and keeps it allowing more fuel.

While the wastegate is supposed to open and bypass the turbo and dump off some exhaust gasses to keep the manifold pressure in check apparently Mercedes felt the need for a back up or perhaps there is some odd situation where the wastegate cannot bypass enough exhaust gas to protect the Engine from being over fueled.

In normal driving you could actually just run a hose straight to the ALDA as some in the past have done and you will have no safety issues. If it seems like you are lugging the Engine switch down to a lower gear if the Transmission does not do that for you.

If you tow a trailer having the overboost pressure switch connected would be a good idea.
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Old 07-06-2019, 01:05 PM
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I definitely recommend the the Monark brand primer pump. Then, you could remove the electric pump that is in there. I got mine from mercedes source. It came with good instructions. I think they are even cheaper on eBay.
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Old 07-06-2019, 06:44 PM
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I guess it is just a personality issue. My first go to resource is myself (I am a reclusive parson that seldom speaks to people). Also I sometimes pass on information to other forum members and if I could say you can lift the hood and look at something and easily tell if the update was inplace think that would be a good thing.
I’m an introvert, too. I checked the receipt (from 12/20/1996) and it lists MB part no. 126-490-34-14 for the “oxidation catalyst.” I checked under the hood and the part number is visible on the side of the device. So I would think this would be a way to check without having to phone the dealership.

The letter I received from MB before I took the car in to have the work performed says, in part, “we are happy to inform you that we now have a replacement device (for the trap oxidizer) with sufficient durability, therefore replacements of the trap oxidizer will no longer be necessary.”
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I have a 1985 CA. The original "trap oxidizer" is dull cast-iron. The replacement (forgot name) has a shiny stainless cover. It is more like a catalytic converter (honeycomb ceramic). Rollguy here sells a "test pipe" which replaces it. If you still have the OE, M-B will still replace it for free, I understand.

The blue saucer is good and they continued that 1986+. I added one to my 1984. It is basically a vacuum amplifier for the VCV "signal" to the transmission, plus adds a few features for acceleration.

Your emissions controls likely no longer work and no new parts available. There is a diagram posted many times which shows what parts you can remove, which will clean up ~1/2 of the vacuum stuff in the bay. You can also remove the EGR valve with plates Rollguy sells (~$15). After that, plus rerouting the AC h.p. run, I can now loosen the alternator bolts in 5 min instead of an hour of cussing.

People fuss that the CA air filter is $45 if you can find one. I just stack 2 cheaper filters (Wix 46070), for 1985 Toyota MR2. Others have the air filter housing above the intake manifold on a bracket which shakes & breaks. I added the 1985 air filter to my 1984.

The electric fuel pump will work. However you provide it, the injection pump needs >10 psig at its inlet. I assume the lift pump is still bolted to the block, beside the IP. If the housing is OK, it should be easily rebuildable since the design is common to most Bosch lift pumps and kits are ~$15 (ebay). Indeed, I wondered about adapting another Bosch pump but most have the ports facing in ways that would bump into components in the engine bay. If yours still has the OE white plastic primer pump, lose that for the smaller & better black one (many posts, white one sucks in air).

To check boost, I just tee in a vacuum/boost gage to the tube off the intake and clip it under the windshield wiper to view as I drive, or when more motivated, ran a tube thru the rubber grommet into the cabin. You should see ~10 psig under hard pedal as the engine rpm increases. Don't goose it up or you risk melting pistons.
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:31 PM
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Lots and lots of mechanical diesel gensets use engines not unlike the OM61x. Many get a boost pump added in order to provide sufficient flow through a fine filter and water separator, and give both lift (often these gensets are mounted on top of the fuel tank) and extra pressure. Works like a charm.
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Old 07-08-2019, 10:51 PM
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Hey guys!

This blew up. Thank you so much! All of this is great info for sure.

I did clean the banjo bolt off the intake. Turns out, it's missing a washer haha. So I have to get one of those. I also cleaned the crud outnof the aneroid.

Embarrassingly, that was the cigar hose. It was all cracked so I replaced it with regular hose (stupid of me, I know).

But! I do have parts coming in tomorrow. The cigar hose is one of those parts. Broke the vacuum line from the pump to the brake booster too.

I did hook a gauge up to the threaded port on the intake and the turbo is creating 5 psi- 11 psi. The only thing is I'm not sure if the ALDA is increasing fuel delivery. Any way to test that?

I plan on changing the fuel filters, along with a purge and cleaning the gas tank ( after removing the fuel level sensor, it was apparent there was a lot of crap as my gauge did not work very well) and monark nozzles. This lifter pump, I'm not really understanding very well. How can I test this? And this is what the electric pump might be trying to replace?

As for the air filter, I just ordered a new one as AutoZone sells them for $90 and had no way to get one. But the current one is FILTHY.

I have a lot to learn on this andni appreciate everyone's help. I just want to feel better about the car for my wife.

I've still got the steering slop to take care of, cleaning and replacing fuel filters and doing a proper job of hooking up the vacuum.

You know what really grinds my gears though? Some jabroni butchered the front doors and rear deck lid to install speakers. I took them out because they couldn't even get it right man..

Again, you all are incredible. Thank you so much!

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