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Om603 Intermittent loud tick
My car has developed a loud metallic tick noise that happens every 30 seconds or so at idle. I would guess it might be the vacuum pump or belt tensioner? The car runs completely fine otherwise and the idle is smooth even with the tick noise present. I can't pin point where the noise is coming from so before I start taking things apart I figured i'd see if anyone has encountered this before.
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Removal and inspection of the vacuum pump is not time wasted. On the 603 engines.
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Om603
I had the vacuum pump off about 5,000 miles ago when I swapped the engine. It is the updated version and showed no signs of failure. Although your right it isn't time wasted and for all I know this noise could of been there for a long time. It's not noticeable unless you have the hood up engine running.
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The long time between ticks interested me. A stethoscope type approach might help. Might not. I do not think your issue is particularly common. From your description.
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Hey Jon,
Post a video of the sound, if you can..
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Om603
If you click on the pics posted they should take you to my flicker account to see the videos. I should of posted that to be more clear. I think it sounds like a sticky valve possibly? I believe it's coming from the valve cover and not the front of the engine.
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For locating noises I like to use a section of hose about 3 feet long, something easy to handle, with a decent sized ID like heater hose or some 1/2" vinyl tubing from my scrap hose bin. One end goes up against an ear and the other end is used to chase down the sound you are after.
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In the three 603s I've owned I've noticed a bit of a lifter noise at idle as they've aged. It comes and goes. Maybe/probably they're not getting consistent oil at idle; not sure. The second I bump the rpm to above 800 or 900 away the noise goes. I cannot see how if you have the updated vacuum pump that it could make noise they seem well built to me. I would look at the belt tensioner and spring and shock. That is a real weak point on the 603 and needs changed out more frequently than you'd think especially with some of the aftermarket crap that's out there.
I do advocate the stethoscope method. They are cheap and surprisingly will let you hear very specific areas of the running engine.
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It's the lifters.
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Lifters can internally varnish until they stick. Either synthetic oil can help or a quart of transmission fluid in the base oil.
With lifters other than the ones that are dirt cheap. I number when removing them. Then pump them up with a drill press in tray a of light oil. Seeing how they compare to a new one. If not I take them apart and clean them. Then retest. If they then test as good as new there is no wear. I am not suggesting this is your problem. |
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Thanks for all the responses guys. The noise has come and gone thankfully. I hadn't driven the car for a week so a lifter probably had bleed down. At idle the hot oil pressure is very good at 2 bar. My top end was rebuilt 10k ago, along with a low miles bottom end so I should be good to go for quite some years to come!
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