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Better purchase-- 84 300sd Vs. 05 e320cdi
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I am looking to add a diesel- Both cars are in top shape... around 65k miles Both asking around $13k Which one is the "better buy" cost wise? And which one will be cheaper overall-- assuming I run as DD for next 160k miles over several years... and will ONLY do basic repairs- so Local indy will be making some coin Personally - love the look of the 84.... BUT- the 05 is way faster/ and 20 years newer... also- I think the Longer WB - 84 sd- drives nicer-imo |
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If you look at my signature you can guess my vote.
Even though the miles are low on the CDI, that price strikes me as high. I purchased a perfect condition CDI with 140,000 miles a year and a half ago for $4000.
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14 E250 Bluetec "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 153k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 171k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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My two cents: the CDI is over-priced but a reasonably priced one would serve as a better DD than a W126... unless you want a project as your daily. Even the best examples of the W126 are 30 years old at this point and many bits and bobs would need to replaced due to age... these will make themselves apparent as you put more miles on the car, no big deal if you can do most things yourself but it will quickly add up if not. The newer car will be much less involved... and that seems to be what you're going for. Not to mention the safety aspect.
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Current stable: 1995 E320 149K (Nancy) 1983 500SL 120K (SLoL) Black Sheep: 1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) Gone but not forgotten: 1986 300SDL (RIP) 1991 350SD 1991 560SEL 1990 560SEL 1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!) |
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84 300sd- great condition- worth $12K?? My new 2005 e320 cdi... intermittent loss of power acceleration?
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Christopher '06 Mercedes E350 station wagon (silver/black) '85 Mercedes 300D (black pearl/palomino) '85 Mercedes 300SD (smoke silver/burgundy) '79 Cadillac Sedan DeVille '05 Toyota Camry (because always running is nice) '85 Mercedes 300D sold back to orig. owner 8-1-06 '84 Volvo 264GL Diesel, owned 2000-2013 |
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That's an insane price for either one. Don't buy a w126 if you aren't going to repair it yourself, most shops don't like to work on them and they aren't a good enough car to pay $200+ an hour labor for everything.
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I did buy a e320cdi
I love the torque! Love the Power/acceleration. Feels like it can go 300k easy I do think that engine will be great moving forward... BUT- some here suggested that the e320 was more comfortable w/ modern improvements and engineering/etc... My Opinion-- Is that 300sd is way sweeter to drive down the highway... (Then again- I was 20 years younger- so that may be the REAL difference- bad back/hip/arthritis/etc. since)... Never drove 300sdl-- hear that is even more pleasant to drive? Not trolling- Yes- I know rubber will wear out... NOT opposed to local cheaper indys doing it... fear is some of the wiring/ major Motor/trans failure on the 300sd... due to AGE -- killing me. |
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Current stable: 1995 E320 149K (Nancy) 1983 500SL 120K (SLoL) Black Sheep: 1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) Gone but not forgotten: 1986 300SDL (RIP) 1991 350SD 1991 560SEL 1990 560SEL 1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!) |
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A well sorted out 300SDLis a lot of fun… Not cheap to maintain… But a lot of fun to drive down the road.
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14 E250 Bluetec "Sinclair", Palladium Silver on Black, 153k miles 06 E320 CDI "Rutherford", Black on Tan, 171k mi, Stage 1 tune, tuned TCU 91 300D "Otis", Smoke Silver, 142k mi, wastegate conversion 19 Honda CR-V EX 61k mi Fourteen other MB's owned and sold 1961 Very Tolerant Wife |
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Unless the suspension, steering, and alignment on a W123/W126 are PERFECT, it will wander around on the freeway. Modern vehicles with modern steering and suspension are much less likely and the suspensions are easier to maintain. W211 is vastly ahead of the W126 in essentially all regards.
W126 is a great car, but likely past its prime as a viable daily driver in most cases, unless you like doing a lot of maintenance often. I finally sold off my last W126 about 1.5 years ago after having it for 7 years. It was a good car (420SEL) but I couldn't subject it to Michigan winters without rust destroying it so I ended up going for a more capable/efficient vehicle that can handle the winter. Also wanted to go back to a diesel. I miss my 300SD but those are even older and there's always something annoying wrong with the rest of the car.....rust, water leaks, suspension, steering, vacuum system, AC, climate control, worn interior........etc. Plus there's the whole winter/rust/snow capability issue again.
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It doesn't make sense to compare 2 cars 21 years apart. The 2005 CDI is years ahead, literally, in every aspects. However, the CDI is way too complicated for my liking. The car I really prefer is the W124 1987 300D, very contemporary looking and easy to maintain. But I like all my cars, period.
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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed. W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html 1 X 2006 CDI 1 x 87 300SDL 1 x 87 300D 1 x 87 300TDT wagon 1 x 83 300D 1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry. |
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If you plan on running it into the ground, get the newer car. The W126 will much more valuable in a few years if preserved in cared for condition.
Anything made after the mid 90's will be scrapped and worthless by then.
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w126 built better,no sensors,computer to worry about.EMP proof. Just replace all rubber stuff,redo trans with updated parts,and drive thru wheel bearing high used motor oil to under coat. a diesel with electronics is not a diesel
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Forget the snow (it never snows here), but just fog on a cool morning is enough to make my 350SD just about undriveable with its tail-happiness. Everything is fine until that turbo spools, I don't care how carefully you drive it, in wet conditions there's always going to be a "hip wiggle" when making a right turn and merging onto a main road. I'm no fan of "traction control" or "AWD" but that car needs something!
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Current stable: 1995 E320 149K (Nancy) 1983 500SL 120K (SLoL) Black Sheep: 1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) Gone but not forgotten: 1986 300SDL (RIP) 1991 350SD 1991 560SEL 1990 560SEL 1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!) |
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