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Old 06-15-2020, 04:24 PM
Grom
 
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Intermittent Rough Idle 82' 300D

Hello all,

Here's a mystery that I'd like to solve. Or if, it's normal for my old Benz, I'll deal with it.

About 80% of the time, my car idles very nicely. It starts a little rough, but after about 5 seconds it's surprisingly smooth.
20% of the time, however, I'll come to a stop and it will be a bit more 'rumbly' and have more shaking in the cabin. I haven't detected any pattern to when it happens, and it's not that bad, but noticeable.

I thought at first it was air in the fuel system, but I don't have any fuel leaks that I can see.

All engine bay fuel lines are new (except for the cloth-covered return lines)
Fuel filters are new
I did a recent diesel purge
Air filter is new

Any ideas?
82' 300D

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Old 06-15-2020, 09:51 PM
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Rough like vibration, or wobble?

My 82 300cd is wonderfully smooth, but when the engine is really hot and idling for a while, it starts to get a bit of a wobble.

Could be a bad line that lets a bit of air in... could be rack dampener spring gets soft when hot, could be that valves need to be adjusted again.
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Old 06-16-2020, 11:06 AM
Grom
 
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Originally Posted by JHZR2 View Post
Rough like vibration, or wobble?

My 82 300cd is wonderfully smooth, but when the engine is really hot and idling for a while, it starts to get a bit of a wobble.

Could be a bad line that lets a bit of air in... could be rack dampener spring gets soft when hot, could be that valves need to be adjusted again.
Rough like a wobble. The whole car feels like it's getting bumped around. Again, not very bad, but noticeable because it's normally very smooth - rivaling modern cars.
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Old 06-16-2020, 03:47 PM
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If you have never adjusted the valves might be a good place to at least check the clearances. Required maintenenace of these old cars every 15K anyways. Athough many have not been done for ages.
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Old 06-16-2020, 05:16 PM
Grom
 
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PO claimed the valves were adjusted last year, although at an unknown mileage. I'll be doing them again in a few months just to be sure.
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Old 06-16-2020, 10:32 PM
Grom
 
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Thanks for the suggestions all, I tightened up my damper bolt a bit and it smoothed the hot idle right out. Worked like a charm.
Thanks!

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