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Old 08-19-2020, 11:39 AM
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I found a nice hood pad at the junkyard from a 90s era MBZ (forget what model exactly) - it fit a w123 hood very closely.

I still need to attach it, that's a job I've been putting off. Originally it was clipped in, I may try that myself instead of glue.

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Old 08-20-2020, 09:58 PM
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I don't want to use a wire wheel or anything that might go through the paint
The wire wheel I used wasn't aggressive. Just ran it on my cordless drill at low speed and it removed the last few spots of rubber that the scraper had trouble with. Everything else was scraped.
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Old 08-21-2020, 01:49 AM
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Post Glue Removal

? Maybe "goo Gone " ? .

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Old 08-21-2020, 09:12 AM
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When I first cleaned the hoods on my 107 and 123 15 years or so ago, I was faced with same problem. How to remove build up of unknown adhesives.

I tried mineral spirits, acetone, carb cleaner and whatever other solvents I happened to have. They all worked to some extent but you end up with a gooey mess that has to be scraped off.

This time, what worked was initial peeling with the ice scraper,
followed by detailed scraping with various scrapers, plastic and metal
followed by hand and powered wire brush to remove the final stubborn spots
This left the even 3M sprayed on coating that will be a good substrate for next application.

I never tried citrus-based cleaners like goo-be-gone or 3M™ Adhesive Remover:

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Removes the Residue, Leaves the Paint
Our 3M™ Adhesive Remover uses a blend of petroleum solvents that helps remove the stickers and wax without abrasives or the need for scrapers or other tools. This wipe-on, wipe-off formula requires no mixing and is safe for use on most cured automotive paints. It is also suitable for removing adhesive residue from vinyl and glass surfaces. It can be used to remove tar, attachment tape residue and bumper sticker adhesive as well as wax.

3M™ Adhesive Remover is also available in larger containers, great for removing surface contaminants such as masking tape and other adhesive residue from bare or primed metal in auto body repair.
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Old 08-21-2020, 03:22 PM
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Old 08-24-2020, 01:52 AM
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My hood pad was disintegrating (again). Spent yesterday scraping hood. Was about to buy a replacement, but thought that maybe it was time to think about a better solution.

Third would be some type of mechanically attached pad, like later cars have.

Anyone come up with a good alternative?
The most labour intensive and uncomfortable aspect of hood pad replacement would appear to be the scraping and gluing. So rigging some kind of mechanical attachment to eliminate that seems desirable.

Have you considered jamming slightly bent bars like fiberglass sail battens, pvc pipe, slender metal slats etc. between the side ridges underneath the hood at the edges using the spring tension thereby achieved to pin the pad to the hood in lieu of glue?

I used your picture to illustrate the concept:
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Old 08-24-2020, 07:39 AM
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Imo, the wire bush on a cordless drill run on low speed would result in a rough surface which would give glue something to bond well to. It also seems that if the existing glue is going to be that difficult to remove it might be best to knock the high spots off of it and expect it to continue to stick.

This all interest me because a replacement hood insulation pad is in my future.
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Old 08-24-2020, 08:08 AM
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A strong (2000psi or higher) pressure washer with a 15degree fan tip took mine right off.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:15 AM
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The most labour intensive and uncomfortable aspect of hood pad replacement would appear to be the scraping and gluing. So rigging some kind of mechanical attachment to eliminate that seems desirable.
This is true. Industrial equipment as well as HVAC applications often use either weld on or adhesive pins. If an adhesive that will withstand the under hood temperatures was used, this type of installation might work. On my home A/C air handler they used those, but many of them have come loose. Need better adhesive!

https://www.buyinsulationproductstore.com/2-1-2-self-sticking-insul-hangers-w-washers/
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:18 AM
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Imo, the wire bush on a cordless drill run on low speed would result in a rough surface which would give glue something to bond well to. It also seems that if the existing glue is going to be that difficult to remove it might be best to knock the high spots off of it and expect it to continue to stick.

This all interest me because a replacement hood insulation pad is in my future.
In my case, I would definitely leave the adhesive (it is 3M 8090) on the hood. It is well and truly adhered. As you say, maybe scuff up the surface a bit before applying new adhesive and pad.
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Old 08-24-2020, 09:19 AM
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A strong (2000psi or higher) pressure washer with a 15degree fan tip took mine right off.
What did the pressure washer remove? The foam pad or the adhesive? The adhesive is the hard part to remove.
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Old 08-24-2020, 10:22 AM
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What did the pressure washer remove? The foam pad or the adhesive? The adhesive is the hard part to remove.


It left a thin coat of adhesive. I used 3M marine 5200 in black to mount thermal padding.

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Old 08-24-2020, 11:08 AM
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It left a thin coat of adhesive. I used 3M marine 5200 in black to mount thermal padding.
Having been in the boating business, I am quite familiar with 3M 5200. Basic rule was - use it if you never want to take the part off again It is very tenacious. Your pressure washer probably won't take that off!

I do like that aluminum covered pad. Is that available in rolls or sheet form? For the W123, it would likely be best if cut into pieces to fit between the reinforcing ribs of the hood.
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Old 08-24-2020, 04:59 PM
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I’m fixing to replace the pad too but it may be the entire hood from the looks of it. The entire area under the pad is corroded pretty severely.
Regardless, as the title and brand suggests this adhesive is pretty amazing. It’s a 2-part poly-acrylic. The company sells all types of mounting fasteners as well but the glue is what you want for mounting hangars. Use there fastener or an elevator bolt which is basically a 1”-1-1/2” disc with a screw or bolt welded center And perpendicular to the mounting disc. A little dab on the disc, press the fastener to the surface, and it cures in seconds much like anerobic thread sealant. Now that I say it that may be an inexpensive alternative to the proprietary adhesive. You only need to clean the area where you mount them but measure thrice because onice you press on the fastener I can assure you that it’s not coming off.

Attached(no pun intended), is an overhead bin in my sprinter that runs the full length, is made out of 3/4” interior cabinet plywood, and stores awning supports, fishing poles, cleaning supplies, and supports our clothesline. If you own a Sprinter than you can attest to the amount of vibration, jarring, shaking these vans are subject to. In the Southwest sun the roof and ribs are too hot to touch. All that supports this shelf are Four 1/4”-20 elevator bolts and Welmount®️ Adhesive since 2006! Trust me, several 8-32 elevator screws will support a hood pad and it’s far and away easier than suggested alternatives.
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Old 08-24-2020, 05:21 PM
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Regardless, as the title and brand suggests this adhesive is pretty amazing. It’s a 2-part poly-acrylic. The company sells all types of mounting fasteners as well but the glue is what you want for mounting hangars.
Everywhere I looked, it was pretty expensive! Where do you buy just the glue for a reasonable price?

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