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Old 10-21-2020, 07:00 PM
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'97 E300 D for sale by original owner

Hello to all,
Looked at this car today. Very nice condition. Ran and drove really well.
Was hoping to get some "pro's and con's" in relation to possible ownership.
The seller will def take less. Have no idea what to "look for" or be wary of.
Inline 6, no turbo. Minimal rust, no rust in the "spring perch" areas.
Any and all opinions (especially price/value) will be greatly appreciated....
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https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/cto/d/ambridge-mercedes-300-diesel/7216720003.html
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:57 PM
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I would not buy a W210 with even minimal rust. If you live in a place where a little rust is to be expected, it's better to get a different car. You won't see the rust around the spring perches until they snap off, and the front control arms rust out from the inside and snap off too. The 97s are not that powerful either, and they seem to always have codes for some weird engine related issue.
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Old 10-22-2020, 12:59 AM
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I would not buy a W210 with even minimal rust. If you live in a place where a little rust is to be expected, it's better to get a different car. You won't see the rust around the spring perches until they snap off, and the front control arms rust out from the inside and snap off too. The 97s are not that powerful either, and they seem to always have codes for some weird engine related issue.
Yes to all of that, I did not see mileage in the C/L ad. OM606 Na is no rocket ship. The transmissions are good for around 300K. If you have any glow plug light malfunctions, chances are you have two dead ones. That can be a problem for a non-DIYer.

Edit photo does show 141K on the dash. If that is verifiable, 5.5K is still high if it is a one owner vehicle. It is more than likely being sold by not the original purchaser.
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Old 10-23-2020, 04:00 PM
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yeah 5500 is ALL the money for that car and then some. you can have a 2005-06 w211 e320 cdi for way less and that is a far superior car.
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Old 10-24-2020, 12:16 AM
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yeah 5500 is ALL the money for that car and then some. you can have a 2005-06 w211 e320 cdi for way less and that is a far superior car.
It is rare to see a running non wrecked CDI for under $6500.
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Old 10-24-2020, 12:32 PM
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i bought my first 2005 last year from the original owner with 220k on the clock for 2500. car doesn't have a ton of options but mechanically it's fine. i put a grand in it after i bought it doing the flex discs, mounts and trans service
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Old 10-23-2020, 04:41 PM
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Yeah, it's the original owner. Not concerned about "speed". Drove the car and it was plenty fast, for me. They'll take less. NOT PAYING 5500! In your opinions, what's a decent price?
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Old 10-23-2020, 05:49 PM
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Get a price on the spring mount redo job.. One goes out while you are driving. It could be serious.You do not have to see rust present on them.

Your local mercedes dealer would tell you who they sent their customers to. At least the low millage for the year is possible with the original owner.
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Old 10-25-2020, 05:35 PM
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I bought my 97 300D about 3 years ago. Originally a Florida car, then NE Ohio. Only 91,000 miles on it when I got it, but rust on some wheel wells and doors. Had to replace spring perches, and selected a top-end MB certified body shop who charged $2,200. Ouch! I had the same shop do the same work on a 94 E420 10+ years ago and it was about $1,500. You CAN NOT see the problem. You would have to aggressively poke around the area, to put it lightly.

I like my 97 300D. I do a lot myself. Just replaced the HVAC fan voltage regulator and the shocks. It has about 135,000 on it now. It's my primary car and I have a Jeep as a secondary car. I wouldn't recommend it as your ONLY car, but everyone has different situations.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:19 PM
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The problem isn't that it's slow. It's that your ears will bleed after a few hrs on the highway. It's geared very short to make up for the lack of torque. It's a great short trip car. Long highway trips, not so much. Couple with the fact that you don't have a turbo to muffle the intake and exhaust noise.
Wow, quite alarming to see things hadn't improved in 14 years - judging from your picture the rpm you've got to be at to make 80mph is as bad or worse than my '83SD with the 3.07 differential.
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Old 10-27-2020, 11:25 AM
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At least on the SD you can swap a taller diff without much issue. The 97 E300D was the first year for the 722.6 electronic transmission. If you swap the diff radio the transmission will freak out.

Again it's a great car for short trips and city driving. I gave it to my parents and they still daily it. I've only done one long trip in the E300D (SD to SF and back) and that was enough for me. My w211 wagon is much better suited for long highway trips.
Am I missing something? The 722.6 is a 5 speed transmission. Seems to me like you're stuck in 4th. Try counting the gear changes when you accelerate.
No way you can be in 5th resulting in +- 3300rpm at a little over 80mph!

Where it says 4{}D on your shifter do you have the lever toggled to the right? To the left will keep you in 4th, to the right puts you in D for Drive i.e. with 5th gear.

Unless there's a defect. This should be an autobahn cruiser! 5th = 2670 rpm at 70 mph
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No way you can be in 5th resulting in +- 3300rpm at a little over 80mph!
Yes way. That's what it is. I don't find it objectionable in my 97. These w210 cars are known to have the steering column boot (at firewall) come apart and allow noise and hot/cold weather into the footwell. That could be part of the noise issue.
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Old 10-23-2020, 07:14 PM
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Well, the few responses, so far, have turned me against this car. Too bad. It's in great shape and I'm thinkin they'll go 4-4.5K on the price. The spring perches sound like a horror story (what an idiotic design) and I've seen a couple write-ups about the glow plugs that aren't very encouraging, either. Although, they've been recently changed ( a year or two ago) in this car.
It's been listed for a while and I guess the "old adage" applies: "If it's good, it's gone"
Oh well, live to fight another day....
Thanks for the input, to all who contributed.
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Old 10-23-2020, 07:31 PM
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Not tryin to be smart a$$, but in my quick search, as far as this goes....
"you can have a 2005-06 w211 e320 cdi for way less and that is a far superior car",
I found NOTHING for "way less" than $5500.......jus sayin. Maybe I wasn't lookin in the "right" place.
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Old 10-24-2020, 08:55 AM
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Not tryin to be smart a$$, but in my quick search, as far as this goes....
"you can have a 2005-06 w211 e320 cdi for way less and that is a far superior car",
I found NOTHING for "way less" than $5500.......jus sayin. Maybe I wasn't lookin in the "right" place.
Dealer in Miami-- has cdi 172k on clock-- ebay

1st auction- failed -- at $5,400 give or take... either dealer did not like price
(cuz i suspect they BID it UP)... OR buyer ghosted him.

I bought one a year ago from this dealer-- HE WILL fix any thing u want / cheaply prior to u buying-- ex.) Ball joints, mounts, trans service

car looks like it has a NICE service/carfax.

Guessing it goes for $5.7-- $6.5
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