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Old 04-23-2003, 09:55 PM
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I Won't Be Ignored ! Look At This !

Ok , that is better, Surely someone has taken a manual transmission from a Mercedes apart and worked on it.. please identify yourselves immediately . The other thread must have been worded wrong. No one was even looking at it, much less posting.... Or is this just TOO boring a subject to take on ?

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Old 04-24-2003, 09:27 AM
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I looked, but I couldn't help so I didn't say anything. leathermang, you know as well as I do that the pro techs don't monitor this forum (except maybe Aaron - where are you?). We have such good DIY's like yourself, LarryBible, engatwork and JimSmith that they pretty much leave us to ourselves.

Try posting your qustion in Tech Help. If you want Gilly, post it in the MB/G/Mog forum. Just tell 'em you have a G with a manual tranny.

Ridge has probably opened up the tranny, but I don't think he checks in very often. Maybe you could email him.
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:25 AM
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What other thread? Are there transmission pictures posted on it?

I have never had an MB manual apart because I've never had one break. I fully expect that they go together like any other. Maybe they don't have needle bearings on the cluster shaft or something like that, but they should be very similar to any.

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Old 04-24-2003, 10:31 AM
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All I've ever had apart was the tailshaft housing on my last 220D when it stripped the splines. It was a piece of cake to go that far, but don't remember much else about it. Was several years ago.
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:48 AM
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The last MB manual we had apart was out of a 1961 300SL roadster. That was when we heard that MB was no longer offering rebuilt transmissions for the 300SLs because the cost of retooling to make the internal parts was too high without enough demand from people for rebuilt units. Ok, whatever. They finally began rebuilding 300SL trannies and sold them for a whopping $16,000 on a basis that the core must be able to be rebuilt or else forget it.
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Old 04-24-2003, 10:57 AM
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What about using a T5 and an adapter plate?
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:25 AM
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Warren, that T5 and adapter discussion was for changing over if a person did not have a MB transmission to start with...
I have a 240 with a little grinding if I go from 2nd to 3rd at a normal slow movement... and Ridge mentioned that these transmissions have synchro problems ....
So I was just wondering if any of our DIY people... not really the high tech guys that have the right tools... had taken one apart and maybe fixed the synchro....
Larry, the other thread was this question.. but got half way down the page with half a dozen people looking at it and NO one posting...
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:30 AM
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See how he gets without immediate gratification?
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leathermang, if you're looking for this fella then PM me with your e-mail address. I'll scan and .pdf the rest (about nine pages).
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Old 04-24-2003, 11:50 AM
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Give that nassty 'ol240 to me...

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Guys, I want you to know I told RLeo that the 616 was not enough power to get out of the way of anything, much less carry a load in a pickup.... a turbo 617 maybe.....
But the combination of dangerous lack of power AND it being a pickup truck.... which is not very protective in an accident.... If this happens... I just don't want to be blamed....

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Old 04-24-2003, 01:17 PM
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He did...and I ignored him.

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You'll have to drive the Wild Ride some day and experience the raw power and gut-wrenching torque provided by 3.8 litres of FoMoCo's finest 1980's engineering efforts, then and only then will you really know what slow is all about.

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Old 04-24-2003, 05:09 PM
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Greg,

I have to second Larry Bible's experience. I have never seen what is inside one of these manual transmissions because I have never broken one. Now and then I succumb to temptation and fix things that are not broken, but for the most part they have to be the kinds of things that jump out at me on their own. I seem to be able to resist expending the effort needed to get one of these transmissions out and on the floor just to see what is inside.

What kind of lube are you running in that beast? I use the stuff from Redline, called Manual Transmission Lubricant, or MTL. It has some pretty good additives to make life easier on the synchros, yet protect the rest of the moving parts. I am also not guilty of trying to shift the units faster than they want to go. It seems to me each transmission/linkage design, and each car as it ages, has a natural "gait" for moving the shifter around without strain. Once you find it you also find trying to change it or force faster shifts is pretty fruitless.

Unless you have the "really big disease" I would not go in for the "really big cure." I would be inclined to settle for some lubricant additives, like transmission drugs, to deal with the symptoms and adjust my shifting to extend the useful life of the transmission as long as possible. In my experience, and apparently Larry's, that could be a long time.

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Old 04-24-2003, 05:24 PM
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Jim, No one shifts slower than I do in my 240.... but the time I have to wait for 2-3 is getting a little long.... I will try those things first.... but I sure hate to hear the sound of gears grinding....it really is at 3 seconds to keep from grinding... that is pretty slow if a truck is behind you coming off a stop light....
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Old 04-24-2003, 05:36 PM
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Greg,

You may have "the really big disease" afterall. Try double clutching to get the synchros out of the line of duty. Jim

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1988 300E 5-speed 252,000 miles,
1983 240D 4-speed, purchased w/136,000, now with 222,000 miles.
2009 ML320CDI Bluetec, 89,000 miles

Owned:
1971 220D (250,000 miles plus, sold to father-in-law),
1975 240D (245,000 miles - died of body rot),
1991 350SD (176,560 miles, weakest Benz I have owned),
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