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Old 02-26-2004, 08:42 PM
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240D owners, if you have your owners manual handy...

Can you tell me how much coolant an 83 240D holds. I do NOT have an expansion tank (at least, I do not see one). I added 2 gallons and it appears that I can add more. I do not have a dipstick measuring device...

I keep pouring into the top of the radiator and the level remains the same, very strange.

Yes, I am using coolant purchased from the dealer.

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Old 02-26-2004, 09:04 PM
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Keep adding until it's full. It's just going into the engine now is why it looks like the level stays the same. This is coolant mixed with water right? Sorry, can't tell you how much it holds.
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Old 02-26-2004, 09:07 PM
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Yes...50/50 water and coolant

Thank you...I did drive the car about 20 miles before I started to add more. How long does it take to fill the engine?

Thank you...

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Old 02-26-2004, 09:11 PM
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I would watch the level closely for a couple days and see if it "burps" more air out of the block...... might help to squeeze the hoses to try to get it to burp the air out too. Then if the level is down just add a little more. You probably have it filled and the air out if you drove it that far..... I think the 240 is pretty easy to change the coolant on.
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Old 02-26-2004, 09:20 PM
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4 banger

Anthony, expect to add 10.5 qt. of mix to an empty system. This is the spec in the Chilton's book

The tips were on the button. Sometimes air gets trapped and gives false reading.

So, if you don't mind me asking, did you buy a 240D after you bade farewell to your 300D wagon?

Give some description of it!
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Old 02-26-2004, 09:32 PM
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Technical Data shows Cooling System capacity of 10.6 US qt for
your model.

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Old 02-26-2004, 10:38 PM
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So, about 2.5 Gallons...thank you!

Unkl300D, I did in fact sell my 300TD. The 240D is the new kid on the block. I did post a previous topic with all of the details, but basicically, the car is in fantastic cosmetic condition, 1 owner (A Nasa Engineer) with at least 2 inches of records. Included in the records is 2 complete warranty books with every stamp as well as a 3rd that is only just started. In the service books, there is at least 100 entries, written by the owner, of various sorts. Absolutely amazing!

The car has 314K miles but feels very strong...

So, I mentioned to Shane that the Bay Area guys shoud get together for a morning coffee...I think the Warden is from the area as well.

Anyway, it looks like the 300SD is on its way to the Netherlands (as well as the 300TD). I am selling the 300SD for what I paid for it, even though I put in brand new Billstien shocks, full service (every fluid) and a valve adjustment as well as 4 BRAND new Pirellis 4000 tires. Oh well, it pays to play. The car is in FANTASTIC condition cosmetically and mechanically. But, I do not have room for both. I love the 240D...an encounter with true dieseling!

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Old 02-26-2004, 10:40 PM
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romansek, do all '83s lack the expansion tank?

Thank you romansek...do you know if this is for cars without an expansion tank, or the W123s in general. If memory serves, W123 300Ds have an expansion tank.

Thank you again for taking the time...

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Old 02-26-2004, 11:06 PM
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1974 to 1983 10.5 qts.

I suspect no expansion tanks in later models up to 83.


Nice car....pics??
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Old 02-26-2004, 11:13 PM
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No pics yet...stay tuned!

I am too busy drivin'

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Somebody asked me why I was making daBenz "do the hula" while I was changing anti-freeze. I said "this d**n engine needs a lot of burping." And it does, to the tune of almost 2gal if I don't burp it. 240D is a bored out 220D, so burp it. And you already know that if you don't have an expansion tank then you fill the radiator to just above the fins so the tank top takes up the expansion without losing antifreeze out the overflow tube.
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Anthony, how much do you want for the 300SD? Thanks...
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Old 02-28-2004, 08:50 PM
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My 300SD...

I am into the car for a bit over $10K with tax and registration.

After I purchased the car, I put:

Cost of Car- $8900
4 New Billstiens HD- $240 (Parts only, Mr Diesel installed for free)
4 New Pirelli P4000- $347
Valve Adjustment- $80 (I did not have Mr Diesel do this, so I paid)

I want $9,500 for the car...

The car has been serviced and need nothing! The AC servo was replaced with a metal type. I have every record after the first 50K, this was dealer stuff. Ca Blue plate car...immaculate condition! 130K miles. I took one long trip to LA, no problems!

This price is much, much higher than all of the other SD out there I am sure. This car is for someone who wants a brillaint car, not a project.

At this price, it may not sell very quickly as most buyers are willing to pay less and 'restore' the car themselves...at least my wife thinks I am trying!!!! So, now I have a choice of cars every morning!

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Old 02-28-2004, 08:52 PM
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The service history...

Sercive Date Owner Service Center Mileage Cost Description
3/15/1979 MBZ-NA (New Jersey) Imported

3/15/1979 Phoenix Motor Corp Trasfered to Dealer

5/10/1979 Reital- Richard/Janis Phoenix Motor Corp Registered to Rancho Santa Fe, Ca

5/5/1981 Don Calandri Smythe European- SJ, Ca 34,979 $123.54 Window Switch/Antenna switch/Air
Leak R Fr Door/

2/22/1982 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 50,263 $179.32 50K Service
3303 S Winchester Blvd
Campbell, Ca 95008
408-374-6641

8/25/1982 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 56,243 $110.14 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)
Brake Pads

2/7/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 61,641 $152.13 Oil Change (62K service)

3/10/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga Tire Service Co 62,356 $255.16 Michellins XVS- 205 70R14

3/10/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga Tire Service Co 62,356 $31.50 Allignment

8/8/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 66,518 $16.39 Charge AC

8/12/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 66,518 $103.93 Replace Battery

8/31/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 67,211 $59.73 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

12/12/1983 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga Smythe Mercedes 69,675 $335.13 Antenna Service
Replaced ACC Servo

1/17/1984 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 71,212 171,83 Window Switch

6/25/1984 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 72,519 $191.96 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)
Replace Rear Brake Pads
Replace Alt and AC Belts

7/2/1984 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 72,615 $31.74 Replace Window Lifter motor

7/11/1984 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga Zenith Wire Wheel $292.10 Michellins XVS- 205 70R14

8/22/1984 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 74,080 $60.87 Replace Valve Cover Gasket

12/10/1984 R C Pillsbury Precision Frame and Axle 72,867 $133.00 Allignment

3/20/1985 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga TriStar Mercedes 77,592 $262.12 Oil Change (75K service)

5/10/1985 Mrs Pat Greil- Saratoga Main Auto Parts $92.25 Replace Battery

6/14/1985 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 79,282 $151.01 Replace Water Pump

7/6/1986 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 80,672 $67.78 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

10/24/1986 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 83,768 $68.50 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

2/23/1988 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 88,044 $188.23 Oil Change (87.5K service)

6/13/1989 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 92,550 $80.97 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)
Charge AC

10/19/1989 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 93,483 $400.76 Replaced Heater Servo Unit

2/70/90 Mrs Pat Pillsbury Cosco 95,030 $145.00

7/18/1990 Mrs Pat Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 96,201 $80.96 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

12/15/1991 Dr Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 99,754 $375.83 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)
Replace Glow Plug
Replace Battery
Replace Power Steering Belt
Replace All Fuses in Box

2/18/1993 Dr Cree Pillsbury Jiffy Lube 104,000 $63.77 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

1/5/1994 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 107,840 $2,763.00 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)
Rebuilt Transmission

2/21/1994 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 108,229 $108.16 Replace Fuel Hose

4/24/1995 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 110,138 $811.81 Replace ACC Servo
Recharge AC

6/27/1996 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 110,138 $261.55 AC Amplifier

10/18/1996 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 110,138 $634.14 Fr Brake Rotor/Pads
Upper Control Arm/Bushing

11/22/1997 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 110,450 $250.69 Window Regulator

1/2/1998 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 110,714 $247.11 Replace Water Pump

9/6/1998 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 112,179 $113.42 Replace Thermostat

11/15/1998 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 112,572 $127.63 Replace Battery

12/20/1998 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 113,012 $115.50 Reseal Water Pump Housing

12/29/1998 Dr Cree Pillsbury Wheel Works 113,032 $525.48 Bridgestone TU- 205 70R14

4/18/1999 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 113,454 $62.67 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

11/16/2000 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 116,768 $3,499.43 ReManufacture Tranny/Torque Cnvtr-MBZ
Oil Change (Lubrication Service)

4/25/2001 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 117,752 $162.13 Recharge AC

2/13/2002 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes 119,301 $268.00 Replaced Alternator

9/18/2002 Dr Cree Pillsbury TriStar Mercedes $317.95 Replaced Steering Lock Tumbler

11/17/2002 John Fitzgerald Purchased from Pillsburys

11/17/2002 John Fitzgerald DIY 121,000 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)
Power Steering Filter/Fluid

2/16/2003 John Fitzgerald Mercedes Werkstatt 121,179 $50.00 Engine and Tranny check

4/9/2003 John Fitzgerald DIY 121,647 Power Steering Filter/Fluid

5/19/2003 John Fitzgerald Mercedes Werkstatt 123,026 $360.26 Valve Adjust
Muffler Hangers
R+R Ball Joint/Tie Rod Ends

6/23/2003 John Fitzgerald DIY 124,000 Oil Change (Lubrication Service)


9/9/2003 John Fitzgerald DIY 125,300 Replaced Alternator
Inspect Belts

12/10/2003 John F and Anthony C DIY- Mr Diesel 126,040 $60.00 Oil Change (Lube Service-Mobil 1 15/50)
Changed Tranny Fluid
Changed Brake Fluid
Fuel Filter and Pre Filter
Diesel Purge Fuel Service
Air Filter

12/25/2003 Anthony Castellino Shaffer Tire and Auto 126,487 $347.00 4 Pirelli P4000- 205 70R14

12/31/2003 Anthony Castellino DIY- Mr Diesel 127,564 $400.00 Bilstien HD shocks (Front and Rear)
Replaced Driver Door Check Strap

1/10/2004 Anthony Castellino Bella's Autosport 127,660 $70.00 Allignment

1/17/2004 Anthony Castellino DIY 129,434 Oil Change (Mobil 1 15/50)


1/22/2004 Anthony Castellino Benz Doctor 129,451 $400.00 Replace Front/Rear Brake Pads
Valve Adjust
Replace leaky fuel lines
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