Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-24-2004, 05:28 PM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
I installed my new Injectors and now I need help.... PICS

Hey...

I installed my new injectors today and now the car runs a bit rough. It only runs like that when it is in idle. From time to time the engine begins to starve. As I drive the car it runs good. I did change the heat shields as well.

This is what I think the culprit might be; not sure though. I am still waiting on my overflow hoses to get here so I did not change them. (the braided ones that connect from injector to injector)..
The old ones did not really fit snugly on the injectors and just slipped on the nipple. I did not have to use any force. Also after driving around for a while I noticed that the lines were a little damp. So I am thinking that air might be getting in there or escaping out of there.....

What do you think ???

Here are two pics of the OLD injectors and one of the new one..

PS. The new injectors had the same part number so I know that they are the right ones for the vehicle.

Attached Thumbnails
I installed my new Injectors and now I need help.... PICS-ki-009.jpg  
__________________
Audi TT
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-24-2004, 05:28 PM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
old one
Attached Thumbnails
I installed my new Injectors and now I need help.... PICS-ki-001.jpg  
__________________
Audi TT
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-24-2004, 05:29 PM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
New one
Attached Thumbnails
I installed my new Injectors and now I need help.... PICS-ki-006.jpg  
__________________
Audi TT
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-24-2004, 06:22 PM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Leaking overflow lines won't affect anything but economy.
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-24-2004, 06:54 PM
N8Scafe's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Boise, ID
Posts: 120
I didn't even know you could buy parts through this site. I don't buy parts online though anyway. Although now that you mention it, there is a tab up there that says "PartsShop." I can imagine that they wouldn't be too happy about that, possibly.
__________________
'78 240D
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-24-2004, 08:58 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Back in Colorado for now
Posts: 1,315
Quote:
Originally posted by 84300DT
just check 'fastlane' above for most any part you may need.
or call phil for that 'unusual' part. i always order parts online and then i can get my friendly indy to install them if i don't have the tools or the time..
at least i know then a quality part i can depend on is in the car.

in either case i save a bundle .. for those nights out with the wif..
Ditto on buying from Fastlane. They support this site. We should support them.
If saving a few cents is the ONLY thing that counts, might as well send your money to "Bigbabbo"..., uh.., I mean, "rustysmbparts"...., uh..., I mean "importbaron"..., uh...., I mean "benzbaron" or whatever the worthless thief is calling himself these days.
__________________
1984 300D Turbo - 4-speed manual conversion, mid-level resto

1983 300D - parts car

1979 300TD Auto - Parts car.

1985 300D Auto - Wrecked/Parts.


=========================

"If you don't know where you are going, any road will get you there". Lewis Carrol

Last edited by whunter; 09-09-2007 at 08:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-24-2004, 09:23 PM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
Signature changed


one more thing if anyone is willing to help.......I hope

It took much force to take the injectors off. I had to attach a big pipe to my ratchet but when I torqued to 60lbs like you guys stated, I was able to do that with one hand.

The car DOES start right up like it is supposed to. I was just thinking that the Valve Adjustment is all out of whack BUT it was done 4,000 miles ago.

__________________
Audi TT

Last edited by kamil; 05-24-2004 at 09:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-24-2004, 10:45 PM
R Leo's Avatar
Stella!
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: En te l'eau Rant
Posts: 5,393
Let's go back to the beginning. What was the original complaint or, why did you replace the injectors?

Also, just because you have five "new" injectors, all with the same part numbers, doesn't necessarily mean that they all open within spec.

Other posters:
Now that Kamil has mended his evil ways, howzabout going in and deleting the off-topic posts in this thread?
__________________
Never a dull moment at Berry Hill Farm.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-24-2004, 11:35 PM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
Quote:
Originally posted by R Leo
Let's go back to the beginning. What was the original complaint or, why did you replace the injectors?

Also, just because you have five "new" injectors, all with the same part numbers, doesn't necessarily mean that they all open within spec.

Other posters:
Now that Kamil has mended his evil ways, howzabout going in and deleting the off-topic posts in this thread?
Thanks....

I changed the injectors because they were nailing. The nailing is ALL gone and I just came back from driving the car on the highway. WOW, does the car purr. When I have it in idle it seems to run rough.

I just also noticed that the first injector is slightly leaking at the bottom ( I will just tighten it on my next day off ) and the braided lines are leaking just a bit, nothing major. I am expecting new ones in the mail soon.

I don't understand how the car can run so well on the highway and driving around town but in idle it seems rough.
When I first started the car after the change it ran terrible terrible for about 5 minutes and then it smoothed out a bit.
I have been searching other threads and it suggests that the valves need to be adjusted. I am not sure how accurate that might be.
__________________
Audi TT
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-24-2004, 11:51 PM
billg
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Doesn’t sound like a valve problem to me. If its not a loose injector fuel line then it sounds like one of the injectors for what ever reason (crud got in the injector from the install) is not doing its thing. The way to tell which one it is; with the engine at idle wrap a rag (it’s going to get soaked) around the fuel line at the injector so you don't get soaked and loosen each line one at a time until you find one that doesn’t change the way it runs. Don’t take the line off just loosen it enough so the injector doesn’t have enough pressure to pop off (it won’t take much). When you do this it should make the engine run rough and lower rpm. When you find one that doesn’t change the way it runs or changes it just a little that is the one that needs attention.
Caution: the fuel is at very high pressure, be safe.
Hope this helps.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-24-2004, 11:59 PM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
Maybe something is wrong with this thing.....
Attached Thumbnails
I installed my new Injectors and now I need help.... PICS-ki-007.jpg  
__________________
Audi TT
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-25-2004, 12:28 AM
billg
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Yep those injector lines are a good candidate for picking up crud. You will be surprised how small a piece can cause trouble (just try to see the injector hole). When you take on a job like this it has to be clean, very very clean. If you are lucky it will be a big enough piece to come out by just dumping the injector upside down. If you are not lucky the injector will have to be taken apart and cleaned. In the injector world a grain of sand would be like trying to swallow a watermelon.
Good Luck
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-25-2004, 02:04 AM
79-240d-project's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Pacific Northwest, Washington State
Posts: 253
Is your idle set too low?
__________________
79 240D (no name yet) 203K Miles Maple Yellow
98 2500 4x4 HD Dodge 24 Valve Cummins TD
83 Chevy Van (Dead-Trans. shot)
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-25-2004, 06:07 AM
kamil's Avatar
Rutgers University
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: North Jersey
Posts: 1,310
Quote:
Originally posted by 79-240d-project
Is your idle set too low?
it's set to the way it was before........
__________________
Audi TT
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-25-2004, 07:06 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: North Central Kentucky
Posts: 1,069
The car running rough for the first five minutes after you changed the injectors was probably just the air working its way out of the hard lines. What is your idle rpm and how are your motor mounts?

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:54 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page