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Old 06-07-2004, 07:24 PM
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Hmmm

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Originally posted by TimFreeh
22k to fix that car?!?!
Remind me not get any body work done in Detroit.
From my perspective I'm pretty sure I could fix it for 7-8K tops - how in the world do you get to 22K?
Of course the real problem here is you can buy these cars already fixed for 10-12K...
A john-Jane Doe with no DIY paying for all work done correctly to restore to 100% factory spec.

The vehicle is not drivable, due to coolant leaks.

Two days on the stretch rack to pull out the worst damage.
Cost for R&R windshield and rear window or stretch rack will break them.
Four wheel alignment; may require return to stretch rack.
New hood.
New grill.
New front and rear bumper and fascia.
New radiator support.
New engine and transmission mounts.
New condenser.
New RR tail light and socket assembly.
New radiator.
New headlights.
New headlight wipers.
New trunk deck lid.
New trunk seal.
Strip and paint to match.
Possible aux cooling fans.
Possible engine fan and clutch.
Possible trunk pan.
Possible RR quarter panel.
Possible LF door.
Possible LF fender.
Possible RR door.
I would expect some electrical problems after a serious impact like this.
Independent shop Labor $65.00 to $85.00 per hour, or dealer at $100.00 per hour.
Labor time for work (rough guess) = 320 hours.

I know chop shops that can slop it back together:
Running condition that will look ok for a year, and then fall apart.
Most of them could fake it up in 60 hours.
You get what you pay for, no more…………………….
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Old 06-07-2004, 10:31 PM
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Well I guess I can see your point but I don't think the person that is going to put that one back together is going to buy NEW Mercedes parts to repair an 12 year old car with 180K miles.

One other question - do you really think the car was hit hard enough to justify fears about alignment issues? The hits were high on the body structure - well away from any mounting points for any suspension components. I'd be surprised if there were any real alignment issues with this one, of course its hard to tell by looking just at a couple of pictures on e-bay.

I'm more of a hack mechanic but I've done several collision repairs with cars that were in the same relative condition as the e-bay listing - I've never even checked the alignment after I was done pulling radiator supports or any B or C pillar sheet metal. All finshed cars tracked straight and true after the repairs.

Thanks - Tim
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Old 06-09-2004, 10:08 AM
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Hmmm

Many of our customers would put a 12 year old diesel at only 180K miles back together with NEW Mercedes parts.

YES, it will be knocked out of alignment.
RE: One other question - do you really think the car was hit hard enough to justify fears about alignment issues?

Look at the LF and RR door, the structural impact force was diagonal to the thrust line.
RE: The hits were high on the body structure - well away from any mounting points for any suspension components.

All too often; I see the pictures first, then owner or insurance drags the vehicle in.
Put it on a good alignment rack and it will show the problems.
RE: I'd be surprised if there were any real alignment issues with this one, of course its hard to tell by looking just at a couple of pictures on e-bay.

The following graphic is what I see in the pictures.
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