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Old 04-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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Exclamation OM617 fitting an intercooler

hey dudes well i wanna start a tread on inter cooling an OM617 from a W123 or W126 i have both cars. Anyways i wanna find a way to inter cool the engine and i think i am up to something. I think maybe with an non turbo intake manifold and clocking the turbo differently i could probably inter cool my engine's . So yeah if you guys have any idea's or wanna get some idea's together i am open for suggestions! well yeah with a non turbo intake i could put an inter cooler in front of the Radiator and do some piping from the Turbo to the inter cooler to the non turbo intake i am wondering if a non Turbo intake manifold would clear the turbo if i clocked the turbo towards the inner fender or something.... anyways i am up to something but i do not know if i could put the banjo bolt in the hole of the crankcase vapors tube goes or something anyways give me some thoughts here or something tnx dude's i hope we come up with something! together!

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Old 04-07-2008, 09:24 PM
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just based on looking at it I highly doubt the n/a manifold will fit with the turbo no matter how it's clocked. also the few 617 intercooled motors i've seen all had a custom or modified turbo intake manifold.
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Old 04-07-2008, 10:10 PM
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How about perusing this forum a bit and doing some reading and research what others have done in this regard................


http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-performance-tuning/


Since you're now in reading mode, take a look at this post as well:


http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=127342
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Old 04-08-2008, 01:23 AM
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just based on looking at it I highly doubt the n/a manifold will fit with the turbo no matter how it's clocked.
It will fit. I currently have the W115 300D intake on my engine and the non-turbo W123 manifold will easily clear the turbo with an 1/2" to spare.

MBdieselFreak, please please PLEASE use some punctuation in your sentences!
Now that you have that taken care of, get rid of that micro-sized hot air intake and oil spewing breather!

No offense, but it looks like you have a lot of work that needs to be done before you consider an intercooler.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:54 PM
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Hey dude "forced induction" well yeah i can change all that, if you didnt know i am a high performance car mechanic.

I own my own Tuning/body garage and i only work on German cars or some GM chevy and ford cars or trucks only. so yeah man i know what i have to do on my own cars! that's what i do for a living...! (by the way on my w123 the intake and oil breather were temporary, i was waiting for a special oil catcher, I have done things to bring cold air in the engine compartment neer the air filter, but i will make a custom cold air intake, from the passenger fender going to the left corner of the bumper etc..... but that's for the W126's anyways.... so i might do it to the W123 too soo dont worry lets talk about intercooling a OM617engine '80-'85)

The pictures that i posted were for references to picture the engines, turbo's and manifold's... Anyways first of all i want to make that modif. for my W126 and i am probably going to use an air to air intercooler so if you could send me a pic of your set up that would be cool ! dude i could see how the N/A manifold fits.

that would be nice of you tnx man.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:02 PM
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HEY Forced dude! your W123 OM617 is manual! thats cool man! i give you a lot of credit for doing that. nice thermal wrap on your exhaust too but, Did you use a 240D flywheel ? Or you used the real 300D "euro" manual flywheel ?
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:07 PM
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hey guys i might have an idea for a inter cooler set up!!!! What about using the stock intake manifold. But only clocking the turbo, and connect the turbo to the inter cooler and to the intake? I would have to use the stock connecting piece with the seal's, from between the turbo and manifold ...i think thats "doable" i think i am gonna try it in like a month, or so i am gonna figure this out....
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:41 PM
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by the way on my w123 the intake and oil breather were temporary, i was waiting for a special oil catcher, I have done things to bring cold air in the engine compartment near the air filter, but i will make a custom cold air intake, from the passenger fender going to the left corner of the bumper etc..... but that's for the W126's anyways....
Alright. Sorry if I came across as a bit of an ass but some people have this silly idea in their heads that a tiny K&N wannabe filter on the end of a tube is somehow a "performance" "cold air" intake and better than the stock cold air intake. Wade "Performance" is a good example of somebody taking advantage of people who just don't know any better. I see that, like me, your air filter is just a temporary setup. I do admit to having a filter (two actually) on the end of a tube but I never claim it to be a "performance" or "cold air" intake, only a stopgap solution until I get a proper air filter set up.

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HEY Forced dude! your W123 OM617 is manual! thats cool man! i give you a lot of credit for doing that. nice thermal wrap on your exhaust too but, Did you use a 240D flywheel ? Or you used the real 300D "euro" manual flywheel ?
I used the 240D flywheel as its roughly 10lbs lighter than the 300D manual FW.

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for my W126 and i am probably going to use an air to air intercooler so if you could send me a pic of your set up that would be cool ! dude i could see how the N/A manifold fits.
Here is my current manifold from a 1975 W115 300D. The VNT is a tad smaller frame than the stock T3 but I'm fairly certain it will fit anyways. Its a bit messy but I'm in the process of refining everything down and getting rid of alot of that clutter.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:35 PM
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yeah well i will comment on this later on, i ripped my knee today and i am hurting bad ....ill give you news soon cya!



[quote=ForcedInduction;1818917]Alright. Sorry if I came across as a bit of an ass but some people have this silly idea in their heads that a tiny K&N wannabe filter on the end of a tube is somehow a "performance" "cold air" intake and better than the stock cold air intake. Wade "Performance" is a good example of somebody taking advantage of people who just don't know any better. I see that, like me, your air filter is just a temporary setup. I do admit to having a filter (two actually) on the end of a tube but I never claim it to be a "performance" or "cold air" intake, only a stopgap solution until I get a proper air filter set up.
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Old 04-09-2008, 07:41 PM
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Here is my air/water IC:

Air/water intercooler installed in my 240D

Perhaps this thread should be moved to the performance section
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Old 04-24-2008, 12:52 AM
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Can you post a pic of where your EGT probe is and how you installed it?
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:12 AM
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I see this thread never went anywhere. I began working on my top mounted Subaru WRX intercooler today. I'll report back when it's finished. My OM617 is in my rock crawler, which I'll be taking to Easter Jeep Safari if anyone is going to be there and would like to see it in action.
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I see this thread never went anywhere. I began working on my top mounted Subaru WRX intercooler today. I'll report back when it's finished. My OM617 is in my rock crawler, which I'll be taking to Easter Jeep Safari if anyone is going to be there and would like to see it in action.
Why are you going with top mount? Subaru's are plagued with heat soak simply because of the top mount. You're trying to cool charge air with a intercooler, but heating it back up in the process.

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