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Old 10-17-2008, 03:32 PM
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Im guessing since air resistance increases exponentially an engine redlining at 6500-7000rpm would benefit much more from an electric fan than a diesel redlining at 4500 would
Except that the fan clutch won't let the fan get over 3500rpm.

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Old 10-17-2008, 03:59 PM
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Im guessing since air resistance increases exponentially an engine redlining at 6500-7000rpm would benefit much more from an electric fan than a diesel redlining at 4500 would


Basically...
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Old 10-17-2008, 07:30 PM
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Except that the fan clutch won't let the fan get over 3500rpm.
Yeah Forced that exactly my point! so the hell with those clutch-fans hurray for Bosch e-fans! I cannot wait to put my car on the dyno!!!
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Yeah Forced that exactly my point! so the hell with those clutch-fans hurray for Bosch e-fans! I cannot wait to put my car on the dyno!!!


He means locked. You will notice no gains with it off but higher engine temps.
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:04 AM
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MY BOSCH ELECTRIC FAN'S SET UP IS GREAT AND WORK'S PERFECT, ILL MAKE A MOVIE AND TAKE PICTURES THIS WEEKEND FOR YOU GUYS!

OK now the next post will be about all the parts i am ordering tomorrow, you guys are going to say that i am nut, but i don't care i am changing everything even if it does not need to be changed. I want everything to be in a Showroom state.

So Tomorrow morning i am ordering all new parts, oil pan's , fuel line/cigar hose, front suspension(coil springs, Shocks, sway bar bushings, control arms, lower ball joints and others), steering( new complete tie rod tie rod end connecting rod, center connecting rod and others) NEW brakes all around 4 Brembo disc's, 2 sets of Pagid brake pads, 4 new calipers, 4 new front wheel bearings, new deeper auto trans oil pan, front and rear sub frame mounts, new rear shocks, 4 Nokian Hakkapeliitta 5 winter studded tires, and more...... this is going to be a big amount of cash/parts going into the 300SD once again!

I should be done soon....
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Old 10-23-2008, 01:39 PM
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How'd I miss this thread? Amazing...........
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Old 10-26-2008, 12:59 PM
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wow whats the point to post stuff here...... to get b*tched at ??? for no reason? i was going to put new pic's and detail of my car's, but is it worth it?? Well if you know-it-all guys out there think they are so great, what the hell are you doing on this site? You should be inventing a Time Machine since you think your so much superior! J*rk's

if you do not like some thread's don't read them! your a waste of my time...

For the other normal, cool forum members i apologize, for these pointless stupid comment's on behalf of the Smartest people of the universe. (JimmyL and babymog) Wish them luck....
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Alright now that the j*rk's are taken care of lets get back to work......
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Wait, you're doing all this work for the car to be in "a showroom state", then you're gonna drive it in the snow/winter?

What?
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Old 10-27-2008, 08:36 PM
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Yeah dude isn't that crazy? i know, i know, but anyways i am painting and rustproofing the under side of the car... anyways ill post pics........

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Wait, you're doing all this work for the car to be in "a showroom state", then you're gonna drive it in the snow/winter?

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Horsepower sells cars, but TORQUE wins races. Horsepower wins brags, but TORQUE wins the drags.
That is offensive.
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Old 10-30-2008, 05:33 PM
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Reality usually is.

Thats why a 400hp V8 will always beat a 400hp turbo-4 in the same vehicle weight range.
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:15 PM
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Reality usually is.

Thats why a 400hp V8 will always beat a 400hp turbo-4 in the same vehicle weight range.
Heres some reality:

torque = tau(torque vector) = r(position vector) cross F(force vector)

Power(scalar) = tau(torque vector) dot omega(angular velocity vector)

means:

torque is a "twisting" force
power is a quantity dependent on that force and the rotational speed
in other words, power is the "twist" times the "speed of twisting"

The reason a 400hp V8 beats a 400hp I4 is that the I4's peak torque happens at higher omega (rotational speed, rpm), or in terms of position, further down the track, therefore its quarter-mile time is greater due to its lower acceleration. Yes, the I4 has "less torque" but that doesn't complete the story. If you were to make a really big I4 with similar displacement to the V8, you could probably beat it.

The reason the quote is offensive is that it doesn't tell a good story.
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Old 10-30-2008, 08:59 PM
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Nope, thats wrong because the large 4-banger couldn't turn fast enough to make 400hp quickly.
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:58 PM
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[/quote]The reason the quote is offensive is that it doesn't tell a good story.[/quote]


How the heck, is that offensive? its only the truth....

By the way to make a good comparison, take a I4 (or any engine)with 250lbs of torque/125 HP and a I4 with 250HP/125lbs of torque. The engine with more torque will easily, beat the HP one just because it always has Brute Force fast, no need to rev high... so to win a race or climb a hill you need torque!

A car with lot's of torque, will beat a ricer hp car, all day long and can work harder longer.

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