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Old 12-04-2007, 04:45 PM
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January 26, 08 Cold weather Diesel Tech Session ++ Detroit.

January 26 2008.
9:00 AM too 4:00 PM

This will be a Saturday (one day) Diesel Tech Session.
It will be a very busy day, bring your camera + extra batteries + work clothes.

Please Note:
You can still attend this session:
$20.00 cash per family at the door for those who have not Registered on-line.
On-line registration has closed
We will accommodate any last moment attendees for lunch.


I am working with a top local Detroit area shop.

Motorwerks Group, LLC
3200 Walnut Lake Road
Commerce Twp, MI 48390
Phone: 248-668-6793
http://www.motorwerksgroup.com

Coffee and donuts upon arrival at 9:00 AM
Lunch will be around 12:00 PM, Pizza, and will be merged with some of the DVDs due to the many topics being covered in a single day.

Prime topics:
* DIESEL cold weather starting issues and tips, this is hands-on, "whunter".
* Tow starting a Mercedes Benz Diesel, "whunter/stummala Motorwerks".
* Glow plug replacement, this is hands-on, "whunter".
* glow plug care and upgrades, "whunter/stummala Motorwerks".
* Valve adjustment, this is hands-on, "whunter".
* Start of delivery diesel injection pump adjustment, "stummala Motorwerks".
* Diesel fuel requirements and cetane levels, "stummala Motorwerks".
* Turbo bearing failure and performance plus rebuilding sources, "stummala Motorwerks".
* 606, 602, 603 engines, "stummala Motorwerks".
* 616, 617 240D, 300D, 300SD/CD/TD engines and vehicles, "stummala Motorwerks".
* Spring perch failure W210 and W124, "whunter/stummala Motorwerks".
* Body rust, what to look for, can it be saved, should you walk away from it, when to surrender = find another body or car, "stummala Motorwerks".
* Future models, "stummala Motorwerks".


DVD preview and Q&A "whunter"
* Primer pump replacement
* Fuel filter change
* Glow plug replacement
* Vacuum Pump Rebuild OM617
* Water in diesel fuel system

Have a great day.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:45 PM
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I'm interested - later the better
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:50 PM
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Good idea, but how do you guarantee cold weather?


Diesels may seem tricky to start in cold weather, but once you know what they need it is not issue. I love starting a 617 on a cold day. There is some sort of satisfaction in it. But then I grew up on a farm dealing with five diesel tractors in the winter.
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:15 PM
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Good idea, but how do you guarantee cold weather?
I think January + Michigan pretty much guarantees that.....
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Old 12-11-2007, 06:33 PM
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Which Detroit shop?
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Old 12-13-2007, 08:05 PM
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Probably would work for me - where is everybody? Too cold in Michigan in January for a GTG?
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Old 12-13-2007, 10:01 PM
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I'm in.

Which Detroit shop?
Looks Like January 26 will be better for everyone.

Motorwerks Group, LLC
3200 Walnut Lake Road
Commerce Twp, MI 48390
Phone: 248-668-6793
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:02 PM
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Last JAN in upper Michigan was horrid.
I would strongly suggest end of FEB or latter for some OK weather.
Detroit is fine in JAN, but getting there it won't..
Just my 2 cents..
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:51 AM
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Thanks,

I'd be interested too if I could get my car to start. Think it's the battery plus cables. Will let you know next week after I get back from a short trip and change everything.

The battery will only start the car if I recharge it overnight. Thought I might have a short but it doesn't seem so. Am too busy and it's too late after work to do anything. Maybe will get a day off when something is open to get a good battery.

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Old 12-26-2007, 11:56 AM
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Thanks,

I'd be interested too if I could get my car to start. Think it's the battery plus cables. Will let you know next week after I get back from a short trip and change everything.

The battery will only start the car if I recharge it overnight. Thought I might have a short but it doesn't seem so. Am too busy and it's too late after work to do anything. Maybe will get a day off when something is open to get a good battery.
Talk to you soon.
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Old 12-29-2007, 06:42 PM
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Absolutely diesel heads, let's all have a nice tech session and hope for presentable weather. I agree that mid January plus Michigan will/should make for a cold weather guarantee.

For any directions, etc, please visit our website, www.motorwerksgroup.com or feel free to contact either myself or one of our two managers at (248) 668-6793

Regards,

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Old 01-07-2008, 03:05 PM
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Absolutely diesel heads, let's all have a nice tech session and hope for presentable weather. I agree that mid January plus Michigan will/should make for a cold weather guarantee.

For any directions, etc, please visit our website, www.motorwerksgroup.com or feel free to contact either myself or one of our two managers at (248) 668-6793

Regards,

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Old 01-07-2008, 03:43 PM
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Sounds good to me

I'm seriously thinking about it. Will let you know shortly.
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Old 01-15-2008, 02:19 AM
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Note:

On-line registration closes January 23 2008

We will try to accommodate any last moment attendees for lunch.

If there are circumstances that make on-line registration difficult, please contact me.

Canadians are welcome, and can pay upon arrival, the on-line software will only accept USA credit cards or PayPal.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:07 AM
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300sdToronto attending

I too am more at the newbie end of things and intend to make the (long) trip from Toronto to Detroit.

The only show-stoppers I can think of are either heavy snow (the 401 from Toronto to Detroit is one of the main truck routes to/from the US and I will NOT be on that road in poor conditions due to some of the crazy driving) or the old girl won't start because it's too cold. I think that is kinda the point of the whole session!!!!

I am particularly interested in how to do a glow plug change, general maintenance and how to adjust the valve clearances. A valve adjust seems to cost the best part of $150 at the two indies in Toronto that I trust with an old Benz. They do a good job but it's expensive and I want to do it myself....
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