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Old 01-19-2008, 02:34 PM
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my thoughts exactly

you have a twin turbo

how much more fun is it than a nlormal 3.0 coupe?

as ive not driven mine in anger yet as its been poorly since i got it in march 07
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:05 PM
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My car actually cost less to insure with the engine & turbo conversion (plus all the other modifications) than it did when I initially purchased the car.
Full comprehensive insurance now costs me less than AU$1000 per year for AU$40,000 agreed value (less than half of what I've spent on it though).

Anyway, that's not why I'm posting today. Yesterday I finally got my car back!!
There's still a multitude of little issues that still need to be fixed up over the next few weeks but it can finally be driven.
The long accelerator pedal travel once again took me by surprise, having not driven the car in over a year. The first few centimeters of travel actually seem to have no effect on the thottle, which gives you the initial sense that a tiny engine resides under the bonnet.

Once you pass this idle point and actually open the throttle, you are in the 1000-2000rpm range. Within this range, the car feels like it's the same 3.0L NA M103 model that I started with. City driving can be comfortably achieved almost entirely within this small band.

Keep pressing down and you get to the 2000-3500rpm range. This is where you realise the engine is a lot more potent than you first thought. Within this range, the car feels like a "performance car" (what I presume the C36 or 500E/400E models feel like to drive) and totally unlike the original 300CE that I started this project with.

Some more pedal travel takes you into 3500-4500rpm. We're no longer in Kansas. Getting wheelspin is something you just wouldn't expect when you first cross into this range, so it takes you by surprise the first time (slightly damp road). Using this part of the rev band feels like you've just strapped yourself to a rocket which is hurling itself toward the horizon and pinning you back into your seat. Any similarity to a 1989 Mercedes Benz 300CE is now purely cosmetic.

Unfortunately the engine is new and I can't exceed 4500rpm for at least another 1000km.
I know from looking at the dyno chart that the engine power was still increasing when the dyno run was prematurely ended around 5500rpm.
This means I have an unexplored region from 4500rpm up to a possible 6500 redline (even though the engine is capable of revving even higher).
Based on what I've experienced so far, this must be the hyperdrive setting.

I'll try and get a quick video of the car in action today.
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Old 01-20-2008, 05:30 AM
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I really need to film it in an underground carpark or get a proper camera. With my phonecam, all I get is wind-howl on the mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuR19irlRo
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Old 01-20-2008, 09:37 AM
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I really need to film it in an underground carpark or get a proper camera. With my phonecam, all I get is wind-howl on the mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuR19irlRo
B.J.

Sounds great, looks great....how does it feel ?

I was surprised that my install has no turbo lag, boost kicks in low without notice and no noise from the turbos even at full throttle...

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Old 01-20-2008, 12:42 PM
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Ortolan, wow that was a superb description of how the car feels in 3 stage comparisions, now i know what to expect and am looking foward to it

RBYCC, the TT is my 3rd w124 3.2 24v coupe and yes ive had a few issues

i bought the car at a bargain price in late march 07 and its been on my drive most of the time

TT had it from july 07 to sept 07 and that cost me just under £1,000 and they said there was 1 more bit to sort and it would be fine but as they are not merc technicians i might be better off getting a merc specalist to connect it to a computer (as their computer only had a very limited ammount of data it could read off my car) and then the merc people can fully diagnose it

whats its doing is when you start it up it used to judder and stall but now it idles fine

then if you leave it running for 10 mins then drive off if you floor it the car wont move and then it will slowly pick up revs and hit 60mph after say 45 seconds

that has been partially sorted but ive been told it needs a new cam sensor or was it the knock sensor, either way its due to be sorted in mid feb as both front electric windows had the mechanism go and thus stop the windows working up n down so ive bought 2 new ones (£110 each) and my windscreen fitter mate started it last weekend but again the parts from merc were not simple to fit and needed riviting so they will hopefully be done next weekend

as for the rest of the car its in very very good condition for its age (M 1995)

when i spoke to the bloke at TT he said there is a good chance that my one was one of the very last coupes they did as he thinks the last one was silver and mine is a late M redg but he could not be 100%

anyway its done just over 100,000 and had 2 owners and is really nice

but now ive got an itch and want a 3rd coupe on my drive as im looking at the w124 e320 convertible but do i really need 3 cars!

i might have to sell my dark grey M '95 w124 with full amg kit n wheels & cream interior and then get the convertible
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I really need to film it in an underground carpark or get a proper camera. With my phonecam, all I get is wind-howl on the mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuR19irlRo

Hello, I have long observed your engines conversion,

Beautiful conversion and a perfect operation,

I come from Germany and I had myself a C124 AMG 3.6-24v and I have a Mosselmann Bi-Turbo Kit

This is my car
Hello, I am Kraftcheck from Germany

I have a few questions to them:

How high is their engine compression? Original 10,5:1 and how they have changed the compression?
How high is your Pressure?

My Mosselmann turbos:



Thanks greeting from Germany
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hello, i nearly bought a w124 3.6 amg coupe but i was a few hours late and they sold it!

as for engine stuff i have no idea as im a technology person not an engine/mechanical person

nice car though
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:33 AM
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Hello, I have long observed your engines conversion,

Beautiful conversion and a perfect operation,

I come from Germany and I had myself a C124 AMG 3.6-24v and I have a Mosselmann Bi-Turbo Kit

This is my car
Hello, I am Kraftcheck from Germany
Thanks! I had previously seen your video on youtube. You have a very nice car!
I'm looking forward to doing some performance runs once my engine has done another 1500km.
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Hello, I have long observed your engines conversion,

Beautiful conversion and a perfect operation,

I come from Germany and I had myself a C124 AMG 3.6-24v and I have a Mosselmann Bi-Turbo Kit

This is my car
Hello, I am Kraftcheck from Germany

What was your 1/4 mile elapsed time and MPH when you ran the RUF 911?

Thanks

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Old 01-21-2008, 03:29 AM
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I really need to film it in an underground carpark or get a proper camera. With my phonecam, all I get is wind-howl on the mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnuR19irlRo
That's not wind noise..........its "Jet Wash" !!

Car looks great , but as you mention, get a proper camera
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That's not wind noise..........its "Jet Wash" !!

Car looks great , but as you mention, get a proper camera
Here's another vid from inside the car:
300CE Cruise

The engine noise still doesn't carry through but at least there's no wind noise in this one.
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Old 01-23-2008, 03:46 AM
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Here's another vid from inside the car:
300CE Cruise

The engine noise still doesn't carry through but at least there's no wind noise in this one.
Not much engine noise, but it sounds like you have a body bumping around in the boot/trunk !

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I do have some junk floating around in the boot but I think most of the bumps are coming from the front suspension. This is going to be fixed soon.

I think I'll tape the camera to the front bumper and make a Rendezvous style movie...
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my thoughts exactly

you have a twin turbo

how much more fun is it than a nlormal 3.0 coupe?

as ive not driven mine in anger yet as its been poorly since i got it in march 07
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Night and day difference.....!!!!

I bought my coupe new in may of 1988.
Great performer but probably mid to high seven second 0-60 acceleration with much stronger top end.

With the TT low to mid five second 0-60 acceleration and able to chirp the tires on the one - two shift.

Incredible torque, great low end, and top end feels like it has no limit.

3.0 liter I6 that now thinks it's a hot 6.0 liter V8 !!!

Do you have problems with your TT?

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