AMG Exhaust

I recently swapped my OEM rear muffler for a AMG muffler on my 98 E430. After 4 months of break-in time I am disappointed at the almost non-existing performance exhaust sound. There is no added performance sound or excitement when behind the wheel while revving the engine, driving the car nor during kick-down accelerations. There is little difference while listening standing outside the car also. This upgrade is mostly visual, with the added dual chrome tail pipes. Is the AMG muffler (part # 6-6-03-0843) the same part found on the E55 or just a AMG lookalike 'faux' part. I looked at a E55 muffler and it had the following number written on it '210 490 24 01' and my AMG states '210 490 04 01'. Now I wished I had invested in a Lorinser, Brabus, RennTech or even a Remus exhuast! These other brands are resonated for better sound!

From a personal point of view the cheaper the muffler the louder sound you would get. Something like burins ?? ( no sure about the spelling) They use a lion as a symbol.
They sound really loud.
hope this help

Price only affects a louder muffler because it costs less to make a louder muffler. When looking for a muffler you need to find out 1)how many chambers the muffler has 2)how many baffels the muffler has. The more of each of these, the quieter the muffler. I would like an AMG muffler, but they have three chambers/baffels (as do most mufflers). I have a one chamber, no baffel muffler on my 16V and it is VERY loud. Find a brand you like and then request a model with two (or one if you want something very loud) chamber and baffel. Supersprint makes some good mufflers for MB. B&B Triflo makes excellent stainless steel mufflers, they don't make them for MB but you can use there generic one, it will fit on your Mercedes.

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Adrian Eckenrod
MBCA, PCA, BMWCCA & SCCA* member
86 190 2.3-16
83 944 ITS Racer

Don't expect much performance gain in an rear muffler swap. You will gain/lose more HP during a 10 degree temperature variation than you will get off changing the rear muffler alone. As Adrian said, shop around with something designed with more of the "Mustang" crowd's noise level in mind. You can always replace more of the exhaust system but cost goes up exponentially in doing so. In addition to the brands Adrian mentioned, Borla might be able to help you out. http://www.borla.com They have a reputation for good durability and loud noises. I don't think they have anything specifically for the E430 yet, but I bet one of their generics can be adapted to fit.

Hope this helps...Lee

I have a Brabus exhaust on my CLK430 and I have friends that have an exhaust from lorinser, carrlson and remus on thier eclasses. None of these are particularly LOUD. As a matter of fact they are constructed to be quiet. They are a bit louder than the stock exhausts but the really nice thing is the tone. Its a lot deeper.

Hi
I also installed AMG muffler on my 97e420
It is like stock muffler. You can only hear a little difference with the sound. Only the "AMG" double tips that make the difference.
well, if I want to make the exhaust sound louder, I would not do that on mercedes. Mercedes are suppose to be a comfort, luxury and quiet car. That is my opinion. Every person has different thoughts.
thanks

Original Poster: Don't get me wrong Donny! I definitely don't want Hot Rod or Mustang "loud". I just expected more growl from my AMG muffler. Jesseliu, states his Brabus muffler is a "lot deeper", well my AMG is just a "little deeper". I want something close to an AMG E55/C43 deep throaty V8 growl and burble. Have you ever heard a AMG growl, it is music to the ears? AMG and other tuner car products must make us enthusiastic and involve our sight and sound senses or their products would be moot. IMHO, if no one wanted a little more performance from their MBZ the tuner companies (AMG, Brabus, Carlsson, FAB-Design, Lorinser, MH-Dezent, Opera, Renntech etc.) would be out of business and we MBZ owners would not desire their performance products as we do.

Hi
yeah. I understand what u meant. That make sense. Once, I saw red C-Class, I think it is C280. But the most significance thing I noticed is its Exhaust sound. It is Brabus. It produced a real, deep bassy sound. The sound is somehow unique.

I am also planning to do an AMG exaust (cat-back) and I was wondering if you have experienced any horsepower gains from your AMG set up. Any/all advise would be appreciated.

Sean
86 190 16v

Sean - I've got an 98 SLK, did a cat back RENNTech system. Aside from no longer sounding like a sedan,(much better sound) there was no noticeable performance gain. (RENNTech claims a 7hp. increase in power.)
I know I don't have an AMG exhaust but M-B can build a halfway decent muffler, and I don't think a whole lot can be gained by anybody without replaceing the entire exhaust system.

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Bruce R. 98 SLK
MBCA
Greater Washington Section
Need more POWER !

Sean,
Don't expect any hp gains from changing to an AMG muffler (or any muffler alone). It will sound a little louder, deeper (not much though). AMG mufflers are not in line with there other performance items. There mufflers are mostly for people who want the AMG tips on there benz for added style. Therefore AMG makes them quiet, just like OE mufflers. If you want to see any power gains from an exhaust change you will have to remove the catalyic converters. Removing the under car cat won't do much. If you gut the two pre-cats you can expect to see a large gain there, 10-15hp depending on the rest of the exhaust.

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Adrian Eckenrod
MBCA, PCA, BMWCCA & SCCA* member
86 190 2.3-16
83 944 ITS Racer

[stummala]

Even gutting the cats doesn't add that much more sound to the V8 MB. Most of the sound characteristic isn't even in the rear muffler so much as the center muffler. Gut the center muffler, replace it, or bypass it and you'll really hear that motor run.

Satish
1989 500SEC-32v

[ke6dcj]

Satish is 100% correct. Lose the center resonator, or replace it with something less restrictive.

Satish, how do you like the sound of the 32V M119 without cats and a center-resonator?

It is too loud for long-trips?

Thanks,
:-) neil

PS: let's talk Winter/Summer tranny switch part numbers. . .

[Rocky]

Keep in mind an aftermarket exhuast is suppose to be lighter then the stock exhuast.

[J Irwan]

Anybody know a good source for less restrictive center resonator (high-flow resonator) .
I am looking for one, especially for my 97 C36

Any info would be most appreciated.

Regardz,

J Irwan