hi to everyone! I'm planing to buy a clk 55amg or a sl500 both without engines and implant the 3.2 MB engine wich amg uses as basis for its supercharged slk32amg and c32amg. My question is how high can i go with tuning this engine? (i'am a real MB fanatic!and just a bit sad that there are not really allot of (hard) tuned mercedes on the streets...)so if someone knows what i can do with this engine to transform this car(s) in to a asskickin 0-60mile or 1/4mile sprinters just post! there is not enough material on the net cause the most just tune japanese risebowls!! thx allot for every help i get!

Not to discourage you but a CLK 55 and the SL500 come with V8 engines that have very nice horsepower and torque. Why would you want to put a smaller engine in a heavier car? Do you have some special mods in mind? Why not look for an SL300 or a clk320?

I live in Greece right now and there is a little problem with taxes in this place.... there more engine displacement you have in your car there more taxes you have to pay. a 3.2 engine is really hard to efford but a 5L or a 5.5L engine is really not effordable!!! to have such a big engine under your hood you must have the big money!! So...my idea was to get a strong chasie and then a robust engine with less displacement and tune it up. I was thinking about to turbocharge the engine with a high level turbo kit, ECU and everything it will nedd (dont have that much of technical knowledge so i ask you people for help). The question how robust is this engine and how HIGH can i go?


Thankfull for every post!

In Leymans (sp?) just bore it out,increase the stroke, drop the compression ratio and toss in some hopped up cams and forged pistons and load a fat kompressor on top, lysholm type is my personal favorite but they're kind of uncommon. Naturally, air and fuel need to be compensated for, contact a chiptuning place, powerchips, renntech, etc. and tell them what you're doing and they could mod your existing ECU or get an aftermarket deal. You probably want to know a good machine shop, too.

It should be pretty good up to 14 PSI, but to be safe, and with all the other stuff, 10 or 12. That should be plenty. Example the stroke only needs to be raised a smidge, couple thousandths, and the displacement comes way up along with HP. Just dont tell anyone about increasing the displacement, so as not to pay for it, I guess, i dont know how it is over there.

i'm pretty impresed....i was primary thinking about a turbo kit but i start really thinking about a supercharger at the end...sounds powerfull! no problem on enlargng displacment...no one can find out so it can be made. would porcelain pistons be better in this engine to get a little bit more out of the engine without harming it or is it nonsense? how much HP do you think i can get on the end from this engine without pushing it on the edge? (i really dont blow the engine at the end)

Ah a fellow Greek. Welcome to the forum. Best of luck with your project. I was extremely happy when they changed the taxes so that you don't have to pay for cars with 2.0 liters or under, unfortunately, I want to get a 2.3-16 in Greece (I visit summers and winters usually) but 2.3 is still over the limit and I don't want to pay more in taxes.

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I wouldnt dig on porcelain, but I'm old-timey, glass and plastic dont belong in an engine, and billet pistons are probably much more practical, especially since they use a lower compression ratio anyway due to expansion. I have a lot of confidence in Mercedes and their engine I'd be willing to bet 450-500 HP is a good number to be at the end of reliable and even then gas mileage is like under 10MPG. But I doubt thats an issue if you're performance tuning something as far as it goes. The Sl's purdy heavy but the CLK aint too bad, thus, 450 is gonna make it fly, i think the DTM only have like 420? Not sure, but its a plenty. It's just theres a lot of little things, which is why the good machine shop is a must. Also, If you're going all out, a manual trans. out of a BMW M3,5 would be a good idea, since its a Getrag I believe. (unless you dig on automatics). Whatever you do in the end take pictures

kiato4 thx! we have a great goverment you know...!!! now offroaders are taxe free too!! so if there is a fuc#ink rich guy and he has the money to buy for example a porshe Cheyene Turbo can can keep it tax free!!! so you see our goverment is working for all these poor people here ho dont have enoughf money to get through months end..!! it's really crazy! are you on vacations in greece or for work?

sure i will take some pictures of it when its done but its still in planing! i like to analize something befor i start somethink...
Is there any manufactor ho creates CLK DTM 2000 body parts? im searching all around but cand find anything...! it will look real nice with some spoilers and widenings. but nowhere to find!

Hey sokrates:
That's weird about the offroaders. I didn't know it. I only visit summers and winters. Good luck with your project.

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There is a thing that i didnt understand correctly...im a few steps away from buying a clk 320 and do the supercharger tuning but sommeone talked about to put a m3 transmission in this car... all 3.2 engines are automatic's as far i know...can this be done???? make from automatic engine a manual transmission engine? can the geat shift times of an automatic gearbox bee setup or is something like quick shift only available for manual transmissions?? is there any manufacturer ho creates clk bodyparts like the dtm 2000 version has??

You can probably use a 6 speed manual transmission from a slk320 as it has the same engine, but I don't know about how to make all the electronics work.

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the question is if a engine with automatic transmision can be converted in to a engine with manual transmision....??? the same engine just switch transmissions! because so far i see all the 3.2 engines of clk's are automatics and i'd like a manual transmission in it! as far as i know its not possible...or is it..??

Do you pay by displacemnt of number of cylinders. If it is dispalcement I would destroke the V8 to maybe a 3.8 to 4.0 liter.

displacement is charged by taxes. 3.8 is really to much...the 3.2 is the magic number. so far can i go with my economics, and a mechanics specialist in a tuning magazine told me that the MB 3.2 engine is one of the best base's for tuning. The 3.2 engine which uses AMG for its 32AMG cars (C 32amg and slk 32amg). I think it is the same engine in the clk 320 i think...is it??